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#1 28/05/2020 at 11:43

Hello everyone.

As some of you may already know, we’re in the process of setting up a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust and we are now formally recognised by the Football Supporters’ Association – something that the club had been lacking (until now we were one of the few Championship clubs without one).

This will give fans a stronger voice and our aim is to establish better connections with Sheffield Wednesday, providing effective, positive dialogue between club and fans for the benefit of everyone associated with the Owls. You can find out more information, including a detailed FAQ section and notes from previous meetings, at swfctrust.co.uk.

The formal process began back in March and since then the interim board have been working on the administration needed to become a registered Trust. We’ve made great progress and are now in a position to move to our next stage – gathering as wide a range of opinions as possible to help inform our policies, as we build up to a full launch when we will begin accepting memberships.

With this in mind, we’ve launched the first in a series of surveys looking at different aspects of the club. We want to reach as many fans as possible, so the administrators of this site have kindly allowed us to post a link to the survey.

This is a huge chance for you to have your say on the state of Sheffield Wednesday. We welcome all views and your responses to this series of surveys really will influence the direction the Trust takes and any dialogue we have with the club.

First up, we’d like your views on club governance and ticket prices.

Click here to take the survey

We wanted to post this on here yesterday but there was a hitch with registering on the site, so apologies for the delay and thanks for your time. 

Building a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust. Find out more: swfctrust.co.uk 

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#2 28/05/2020 at 12:06

Nope

Off you fuck 

Consilio et Animis 

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#3 28/05/2020 at 12:07

Are “Wednesdayite” involved with this new trust? 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#4 28/05/2020 at 12:16

From the website these are the head honcho's - the only one I can see who might be controversial is the WOMT guy IIRC some of his tweets havent gone down well on here. On the plus side, No Wednesdayite/Short's involved as far as I can see.

James Silverwood - James is a season ticket holder and Lecturer in Emerging Markets at Coventry University
Ian Brandwood - Ian is a HR Director and has been a season ticket holder for over 40 years.
Steve Walmsley - Steve is the editor of the WOMT fanzine and a season ticket holder
Tom Scott - Tom is a season ticket holder and Digital Marketer
Other Founder Members
Jenni Smith - Jenni has been a kop season ticket holder for more than 30 years and is a Marketing Leader in the Civil Service
Tom Hocking - Tom has been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and is the Deputy Editor of the WSC magazine. 

Of course there are cracks, that's how the light gets in. 

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#5 28/05/2020 at 12:39

How have they got the positions so far?

Seems a bag of bollocks and to be honest that Walmsley bloke is a fucking wanker.  

Consilio et Animis 

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#6 28/05/2020 at 12:48

They're looking for a treasurer Reesh.

Get yourself in there.  

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#7 28/05/2020 at 12:55

They're looking for a treasurer Reesh.

Get yourself in there.
Skamp, 28/05/2020 at 12:48



I'd rather shit in my hands mate.  

Consilio et Animis 

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#8 28/05/2020 at 12:57

I wish them well and let them got on with it

If you don't like this thing then don't get involved

Seems simple to me  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#9 28/05/2020 at 13:05

How have they got the positions so far?

Seems a bag of bollocks and to be honest that Walmsley bloke is a fucking wanker.
Reesh1867, 28/05/2020 at 12:39


Tbf Reesh like any of these things somebody has to start it somehow.

So you can't get to phase 2 - have elections and all that shizzle without someone having done the shizzle in phase 1

So the same accusation was levelled at WTID IIRC - who the fuck are these people and what authority do they have.

So its not for you, not for me either these days but having done this sort of thing in the past not going to knock others for wanting to do same type of thing


I was disillusioned back then with that board and I can understand why others have concerns about how we are now run today  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#10 28/05/2020 at 13:15

I don't want to read about it on here though Kev, that Walmsley bloke is an entitled cockwomble and they've already cosied up to Wednesdayite, two big red flags.


Fuck em.  

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#11 28/05/2020 at 13:18

I don't want to read about it on here though Kev, that Walmsley bloke is an entitled cockwomble and they've already cosied up to Wednesdayite, two big red flags.


Fuck em.
Reesh1867, 28/05/2020 at 13:15


Someone's got their G String in a twist. 😂😂 

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#12 28/05/2020 at 13:30

Just to add to Reesh's comments.

The WOTM bloke has axes to grind with DC, sending open letters to the club etc and looks to be a grade A tool. That alone killed off my initial interest and when they announced the tie up with WendyShyte, i was out 100%.

Still I got thesurvey, but the questions are pre-loaded with bias towads the outcome they want.

Tickets to expensive & DC is clueless

There is scope for a neutral fans' group but this certainly aint it.

Kev - would you consider reanimating WTID to serve a truly independentmandate towards bringing the club & fans closer?

EDIT: In fact, we've already got a platform and potentially 17k twitter followers to make this effective. Give Terry something to do...  

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#13 28/05/2020 at 13:54



Someone's got their G String in a twist. 😂😂
Hirsty's 12th Pint, 28/05/2020 at 13:18


Pipe down Proclaimer 

Consilio et Animis 

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#14 28/05/2020 at 14:10

I've said it on the other two threads.
To jump straight in with a survey around the financials and governance (on and off field) is a non starter. The questionnaire is also simplified and loaded to give a neutral to negative response towards the club, especially given the results we've had since Christmas and the on going EFL situation.
If we were currently say in automatic promotion you'd have a completely different set of answers.

I would have expected better from a digital marketeer, a marketing leader, and a HR director.

Sample question. "The English Football League's rules are at fault for Sheffield Wednesday's financial situation"
You're asking someone to answer on two topics they probably know Jack all about.
We've qualified accountants, most who run their own businesses, on this site that fine tooth comb the accounts when they come out each year so the rest of us understand but I doubt anyone has wasted time trying to acquaint those accounts to this
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl- rules--regulations/appendix-5---financial -fair-play-regulations/www
Even EFL members don't know what it means fully otherwise no one would be in possible breach.
Can you explain the Championship club exemptions or what 'football fortunes' means in relation to EFL governance?

Then you have questions around whether the team has improved since DC got here and since 2016 and then questions around ticket prices. Most fans equate team improvement to brass spent and ticket prices are always too much of you're watching shit football.

At the moment we have a benevolent dictator in charge of our club spending his own money and, as far as we're aware, not borrowing millions from third parties to do it.
And you want to jump straight in with "dear Mr Chansiri. We've canvassed fan opinion and the results are get your cheque book out again to buy better players but we're not prepared to pay more than £25 a ticket for it".

Chansiri hasn't done the fans forums since 2018 because he got fed up of being shouted at. Have you actually introduced yourself to the club and asked what they'd like from you?

If you really want this to get off the ground then I respectfully suggest you canvas other FSA trusts to see how they got started and how much influence they have.
Can I suggest Wimbledon, Rotherham, Man City and Notts County.

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#15 28/05/2020 at 14:11

Please don't think that I'm defending them, I'm not and I won't be getting involved but havent they made the point that they met with Wednesdayite, decided to go their separate ways and have no dealings with them, other than maybe community stuff?

I did think the WOTM guy would switch folk off though, I've seen his tweets and he does endlessly dig at DC.  

Of course there are cracks, that's how the light gets in. 

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#16 28/05/2020 at 18:17

this ain’t gonna work, the whole thing is geared to ousting the chairman, OK, they get their wish, DC walks away, then what the fuck are the other options? Have a think about you set of c**ts (the Trust that is). 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#17 28/05/2020 at 18:27

Just to add to Reesh's comments.

The WOTM bloke has axes to grind with DC, sending open letters to the club etc and looks to be a grade A tool. That alone killed off my initial interest and when they announced the tie up with WendyShyte, i was out 100%.

Still I got thesurvey, but the questions are pre-loaded with bias towads the outcome they want.

Tickets to expensive & DC is clueless

There is scope for a neutral fans' group but this certainly aint it.

Kev - would you consider reanimating WTID to serve a truly independentmandate towards bringing the club & fans closer?

EDIT: In fact, we've already got a platform and potentially 17k twitter followers to make this effective. Give Terry something to do...
Andyben, 28/05/2020 at 13:30


Still got the Ltd company - dormant

However not personally going to get involved in anything - too much real life work to do and geographically it wouldn't work.

However if anybody wants the company they can have it for nowt  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#18 28/05/2020 at 18:30

I did ponder the Sheffield Wednesday Supporters Club idea a few years ago which is my middle of the road idea that I personally think is preferable. No politics, concentrate on the mundane matters of supporter experience, doing stuff around Matchday

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#19 28/05/2020 at 18:44

Thats it.

Be nice, open dialogue with fans & club.

Provide a platform for outing idiots like Price of Football, Stir Bias etc 

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#20 28/05/2020 at 18:58

They're looking for a treasurer Reesh.

Get yourself in there.
Skamp, 28/05/2020 at 12:48



LOL 

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#21 31/05/2020 at 14:13

Hello,

Firstly, a massive thank you to everyone who has filled in the first survey so far. We’ve had over 1,300 respondents, giving their varied views on club governance and ticket prices.

If you haven’t already filled it in, you have until midday on Monday to do so. This is a great opportunity to air your views – we are listening.

Click here to fill in the survey

Once it is closed we will begin analysing the results, which we will then share with you all.

As we’ve mentioned, this is the first in a series of surveys. The next one, which will cover the matchday experience and what you would like to see from a Supporters’ Trust, will be released soon – we will post it on here when it is live.

We also really appreciate the comments and discussions that have happened on both this thread and the other one – as expected, there has been a wide range of opinions on both the club and the Trust. We welcome criticism and it will all be taken into account as we move forward to form policies and build up to recruiting members.

If you want more information on the Supporters’ Trust then feel free to head to our website, where there is a detailed list of FAQs as well as past board minutes. There’s also an opportunity to sign up to our mailing list, to make sure you stay up to date on the Trust’s activities. 

Building a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust. Find out more: swfctrust.co.uk 

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#22 31/05/2020 at 14:24

Go fuck yourselves


Which of your current set up is behind this account, if its Walmsley I'd like to say from the bottom of my heart I think you're an absolute knobhead and you need to fuck off.  

Consilio et Animis 

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#23 31/05/2020 at 14:35

I fail to see the point of all this ,they have no money and no power . I think that they must be suffering from " Lockdown Fever "  

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#24 31/05/2020 at 17:01

It’s your typical Animal Farm scenario  

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#25 31/05/2020 at 17:13

You saying the trust are actually pigs? Ninja

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#26 31/05/2020 at 17:15

You saying the trust are actually pigs? Ninja
MPB, 31/05/2020 at 17:13


BigsmileThumbsup

This is the last time I'm painting on a grin. 

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#27 31/05/2020 at 18:18

Hello,

Firstly, a massive thank you to everyone who has filled in the first survey so far. We’ve had over 1,300 respondents, giving their varied views on club governance and ticket prices.

As we’ve mentioned, this is the first in a series of surveys. The next one, which will cover the matchday experience and what you would like to see from a Supporters’ Trust, will be released soon – we will post it on here when it is live.
SWFCTrust, 31/05/2020 at 14:13


Serious question.
Are the next two surveys coming off the back of comments made on here and other forums?
If so then be open about it. Hold your hands up and say maybe we got the first one wrong and you might win a few more over.

Cos I'd have thought "what would you like to see from a supporters Trust" would have been the first question sent out. That way you could adapt to those you wish to join, rather than seemingly (if most comments across all forums suggest) push an agenda that could be deemed as anti club and which one of the interim board already has previous in pursuing. 

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#28 31/05/2020 at 18:31

Exactly, Ty.

"This is our vision, but what do you want to see" is a far more powerful message than sending out preloaded surveys in an effort to substantiate and empower yourself 

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#29 31/05/2020 at 19:06

Completed it, but sense it might be used to criticize DC and pricing. He will price things in whatever way he thinks is best, after investing tens of millions I think he has that right. 

I'll never buy from AXA again! 

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#30 31/05/2020 at 19:57

I've also noticed there's a distinct lack of challenge to what's been said on here and even on Stalk.
We're your potential recruitment base but you're not doing anything to promote or change our point of view. This just reinforces the view of insularity.
I take it that it's Tom Hocking that's posting, as he's the one linked to the communication and engagement pieces in the board minutes.
However, this is minuted in the last set.
Appointment of Spokespeople
Agreed to ‘park’ this conversation until the work on the Communications and Engagement Strategy has been completed.

So I'll address Tom directly.
This is a forum mate. You can see its full of debate and most of it is well thought out and relevant. So don't just write "We welcome criticism and it will all be taken into account." Debate with us. Put your case forward as to why and try and win us over. To say you welcome criticism but not to challenge it just says you're giving it a cursory nod but it's not going to change much.

I'll take one more piece from your last post.
"...as we move forward to form policies and build up to recruiting members."
surely it should be the other way round. Form a membership that can vote on policies? Because, at the moment, it's just the six of you voting and that's a closed shop. You run the risk, as many on here are already highlighting, that the policies you six agree on could seriously marginalise your membership uptake and just attract those that agree with you.
A trust is supposed to be representative of all fans.

I sincerely hope you post back, Tom, even if you create a personal account to do it with.
As others have posted, this has an opportunity to gain legs but at the moment you're running before crawling and in completely the wrong direction.

In the meantime I look forward to reading the minutes of last Tuesday's board meeting. I thought they would have been up by now, seeing as you have to publish them as part of the FCA regulations.

And I hope the team building is going well.
"In terms of board development agreed we need to focus on team building and governance." 

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#31 01/06/2020 at 08:42

Completed it, but sense it might be used to criticize DC and pricing. He will price things in whatever way he thinks is best, after investing tens of millions I think he has that right.
WednesdaysChild, 31/05/2020 at 19:06


To be fair, our POTG prices are on a par with most in this league, the wet through wobbly headed gimps on sites like ‘stalk and twatter just make shit up to bash owt SWFC. 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#32 01/06/2020 at 08:44

And, an excellent post ty! 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#33 12/06/2020 at 12:06

Hello,

I thought I’d continue this thread, rather than start a new one.

We’re delighted to say that the first survey we ran, which looked at club governance and ticket prices, received over 1,500 responses, which was fantastic.

The results are fascinating and really give an insight into the feelings of many supporters towards the club. Here are some key findings:

• 50% of fans believe season tickets offer poor value for money
• 92% of fans believe matchday tickets offer poor value for money
• £20 would be a fair price on the Kop, according to 53% of fans
• 68% of fans say the playing squad has improved under Dejphon Chansiri
• 49% say SWFC do not value them as fans
• 78% disagree that SWFC are run in a sustainable way
• 52% of fans uncomfortable with sale of Hillsborough
• 45% of fans agree SWFC are a community club

You can read the full report here

We encourage you to read the full report as it will add more context to the above findings and is packed with practical suggestions from the fanbase.

As part of our ongoing commitment to consult with the fanbase, we have now launched a second survey focusing on the matchday experience and, importantly, what actions and activities you would like to see from the Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust.

You can take the second survey here

I also just wanted to address the previous post by Tylluan and other comments. We are volunteers and share communication duties depending on availability, but yes this is Tom Hocking posting now.

It was always planned to do a series of surveys, though we have merged some topics due to timescales. We felt that, rather than rely on anecdotal evidence about some topics fans may believe to be big issues at the club (that may well exist only in our social circles/bubble), we would collect hard data which would give the Trust’s interim board clear guidance on what the majority of fans thought. Sometimes the loudest voices are not the ones in the majority, so we felt that was important.

We also endeavoured to get the survey out to as wide a range of people as we could given the lockdown restrictions. We know that some on this forum are hostile towards the setting up of the Trust (as they are on Owlstalk, Facebook, Twitter…) but we’d like your views on the issues anyway because we want the Trust the represent Sheffield Wednesday fans, not Sheffield Wednesday Fans Who Agree With Us.

Please don’t take the “lack of challenge”, as it has been put, as us ignoring any criticism – it’s actually quite the opposite. We feel it’s vital that the Trust takes on board the views of everyone, particularly at a time where we are building its foundations. In that way, getting drawn into individual back-and-forths on forums and social media, where we seek to “defend” a position which is still developing as we consult with the fanbase, seems counter-intuitive. People are welcome to say whatever they want – whether they choose to frame it like Tylluan or Reesh1867.

I obviously disagree that the survey was “preloaded” – for every question there were options to respond positively or negatively, and we also included many areas to write in practical suggestions. We’ve since received offers of help from people with more experience in surveys and data collection, so hopefully the second one won’t receive that criticism, whether it was valid or not – please fill it in and give us feedback, we are always looking to improve the Trust’s work.

It’s also not about outright criticising or praising the club though, it’s about engaging positively in continued dialogue. We feel that a Trust affiliated to the FSA will offer a structured approach to that, helping the club to gauge fan opinion as much as it helps fans feed back to the club. If enough people feel the same, then the Trust will grow. If they don’t, it won’t.

We want to see what people really feel about both the club and the idea of a Trust, what they want to see and what they are worried about – then hopefully put into place the building blocks that allay those concerns. Of course, central to that is that if you like the idea of a Trust, but don’t like the people involved and the way things are being done, join up (when you can, memberships to be launched soon we hope) and vote for people you do want to be involved.

We will obviously correct factual errors, though. We are not working with Wednesdayite. As was said previously, after some social media posts from the Wednesdayite account we decided to have a private conversation (rather than a social media slanging match, which helps no one) and agreed to let each other do our own things but that maybe, potentially there might be the odd community project further down the line where helping each other for the benefit of a good cause could possibly be useful. But that’s ultimately down to the Trust’s members, the board they elect and the projects they wish to pursue.

I’d also just say that at the moment the interim board are simply that – a group of people (many of us didn’t know each other until forming the Trust – hence the team building mentioned in the minutes!) who felt a Trust would be a positive thing for Sheffield Wednesday fans, so are trying to set one up. There is no guarantee that anyone will stand for election once the ground work has been done, that’s up to individuals themselves (and I wouldn’t pretend to speak for them on that), and anyone else is welcome to also stand.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I hope you find the results interesting and fill out the second survey.  

Building a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust. Find out more: swfctrust.co.uk 

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#34 12/06/2020 at 12:07

yeah, about those questions, cock sucker...



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#35 12/06/2020 at 12:13

Hello,.
SWFCTrust, 12/06/2020 at 12:06


Fuck off! 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#36 12/06/2020 at 12:29

I don't see much wrong with the latest post and found it fairly interesting. 

2019/20, the promotion party starts now!!!! 

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#37 12/06/2020 at 12:31



Fuck off!
MPB, 12/06/2020 at 12:13

Is that a 'no', then? Bigsmile

We must not give opposition teams hope. We have to kill them. 

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#38 12/06/2020 at 12:40

Thanks for posting

there is a variety of views on here so some of us will be interested to see how it progresses  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#39 12/06/2020 at 12:56

Car park....blah blah......apologies for them Twin lasses swearing....blah blah....which way up does this flag go?....blah blah.....so, motion carried, we’ll get some new tea cups from Ikea then......blah blah.....

Fucking pointless.

Where would these c**ts be if we were sat in 4th place in the league and on a decent run?

In their fucking boxes that’s where!


Now fuck off....again! 

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It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#40 12/06/2020 at 12:56

Twats have just made me realise that I have recently slipped from being in the 55 to 64 range and I'm now firmly in the 65 to 74 range, fucking gutted.

Stick your trust and leave the club alone, it is far from perfect but the last thing it needs is a load of fucking agitators descending on it ala Blue Lives Matter or similar. 

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#41 12/06/2020 at 13:17

Lifted from the Trust strategy.


Encouraging SWFC to support community teams, including an SWFC Women’s Team, as a key element of the club community engagement strategy


We already have an official (and funded) Sheffield Wednesday Ladies Fc doing excellent work in the community, promoting girls and women's football from under 9s to under 18s and two adult sides.

You can tick that one off your list.  

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#42 12/06/2020 at 13:31

How does 1500 responses give a voice for the average 20odd thousand that attend games and those that dont attend? 

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#43 12/06/2020 at 13:35

Have they asked Chansiri if he'll kneel for BLM and if not, why not?

Should we throw Ozzie Owl into the river as Ozzie is clearly a racist name?

How many BAME people are on the trust's board?

These are the questions fans demand to know the answers to.

 

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#44 12/06/2020 at 13:36

We hold steering groups don’t we, DC puts his head in the firing line for that, fans can ask questions, DC answers em, he’s done it a few times, why the fuck do we need another “trust” to do something that’s already been done?!???

This absolutely stinks of yet another set of c**ts who are only interested in becoming “celeb” fans.

Once again.....fuck off! 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#45 12/06/2020 at 13:39

How does 1500 responses give a voice for the average 20odd thousand that attend games and those that dont attend?
P_O_T_R, 12/06/2020 at 13:31


It gives an idea, same as any questionnaire. Never going to get everybody in Britain replying to a census but still gives you a general view at least. 

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#46 12/06/2020 at 13:39

[[qvotespot1]]

We already have an official (and funded) Sheffield Wednesday Ladies Fc doing excellent work in the community, promoting girls and women's football from under 9s to under 18s and two adult sides.

You can tick that one off your list. [/quote]

And promoted to the 5th tier i read this morning, great news. 

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#47 12/06/2020 at 13:55



It gives an idea, same as any questionnaire. Never going to get everybody in Britain replying to a census but still gives you a general view at least.
holmesfield_owl, 12/06/2020 at 13:39


True, and all are meaningless.

It's what happens at the ballot/ST renewal date that shows what people actually think  

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#48 12/06/2020 at 14:00

We hold steering groups don’t we, DC puts his head in the firing line for that, fans can ask questions, DC answers em, he’s done it a few times, why the fuck do we need another “trust” to do something that’s already been done?!???

This absolutely stinks of yet another set of c**ts who are only interested in becoming celeb fans

Once again.....fuck off!
MPB, 12/06/2020 at 13:36




Exactly this, potential celeb fans desperately seeking a mandate. 

Post edited on 12/06/2020 at 14:02 by ProfessorPlum

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#49 12/06/2020 at 14:05





Exactly this, potential celeb fans desperately seeking a mandate.
ProfessorPlum, 12/06/2020 at 14:00


Its been a long time since one was held. Can do them by Zoom or Teams now too, easy! Bigsmile

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#50 12/06/2020 at 14:06

Vote on the band in survey 2 btw  

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#51 12/06/2020 at 14:29

Vote on the band in survey 2 btw
Skamp, 12/06/2020 at 14:06


Fantastic, never doubted the Trust. Keep it up lads 

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#52 12/06/2020 at 14:37

Vote on the band in survey 2 btw
Skamp, 12/06/2020 at 14:06


Are they going to be playing in the empty stadium games to 'improve' the atmosphere lol? 

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#53 12/06/2020 at 14:42

How many of the 1500 were dem blades taking the piss? 

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#54 12/06/2020 at 14:44

How many of the 1500 were dem blades taking the piss?
P_O_T_R, 12/06/2020 at 14:42


I didn't disagree with much apart from the £20 which seems too cheap to me if we want to be competitive. 

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#55 12/06/2020 at 17:52

Right so according to around 5% of our fanbase...
78% of them think we're not being run in a sustainable way but 53% want the Kop to be £20 a ticket. There's got to be some crossover there so how are we to become sustainable on £20 a game for 11,200 seats. Half an average home gate.

While we're on sustainability. One of the comments on the full breakdown states we should become sustainable like Brentford.
And this is why things like this fall down. Brentford is not, and never has been, a sustainable club under its current ownership. Take a look at their accounts. Buying cheap and selling high is not keeping them going and that bubble looks set to burst as buying clubs have no money.

50% of those that replied (2.5%) reckon a season ticket isn't value for money. But a Kop season ticket equates to around £20 a game so that must be the opposite 50% to those wanting £20 on the Kop.
Unless it's £20 walk up, in which case a season ticket would have to come out at £12-15 a game.
But 78% think we're not being run in a sustainable way.

If I was Chansiri and I was presented with these figures I'd laugh my head off for a week then wonder what I was doing here. 

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#56 12/06/2020 at 18:27

I agree with you Holmsfield re £20, unless of course all clubs return to the real world and pay salaries that reflect a normal working wage not something no of us can justify. 

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#57 12/06/2020 at 18:55

Right so according to around 5% of our fanbase...
78% of them think we're not being run in a sustainable way but 53% want the Kop to be £20 a ticket. There's got to be some crossover there so how are we to become sustainable on £20 a game for 11,200 seats. Half an average home gate.

While we're on sustainability. One of the comments on the full breakdown states we should become sustainable like Brentford.
And this is why things like this fall down. Brentford is not, and never has been, a sustainable club under its current ownership. Take a look at their accounts. Buying cheap and selling high is not keeping them going and that bubble looks set to burst as buying clubs have no money.

50% of those that replied (2.5%) reckon a season ticket isn't value for money. But a Kop season ticket equates to around £20 a game so that must be the opposite 50% to those wanting £20 on the Kop.
Unless it's £20 walk up, in which case a season ticket would have to come out at £12-15 a game.
But 78% think we're not being run in a sustainable way.

If I was Chansiri and I was presented with these figures I'd laugh my head off for a week then wonder what I was doing here.
tylluan, 12/06/2020 at 17:52


The thing for me about this, my 'feeling' is that some of people's responses could also be heavily weighted with how they feel things are ON the field and the confidence in the squad too.

We all know how much the game is a very emotive thing and if the overall feeling of things on pitch is apathy or disconnection, which seems to be the case for quite a few as well as the lack of connection or confidence in the manager, it can quickly translate to answering somewhat negatively too.  

13.11.2010 at 20.51 emre...tbh, Hoylands goal gave me a semi 

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#58 12/06/2020 at 19:03

It’s everything to do with results on the pitch, we lose its “gi us cheaper tickets”, win and it’s “why ant we bilt a noo stayjum...gmumph-fart!”.

These trust c**ts are already showing themselves up, as a great man once said...fuck off!! 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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#59 12/06/2020 at 19:04

It's not about showing themselves up, I just don't think that right now the answers will be objective from people as they could be... Smile

13.11.2010 at 20.51 emre...tbh, Hoylands goal gave me a semi 

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#60 12/06/2020 at 19:12

Right so according to around 5% of our fanbase...
78% of them think we're not being run in a sustainable way but 53% want the Kop to be £20 a ticket. There's got to be some crossover there so how are we to become sustainable on £20 a game for 11,200 seats. Half an average home gate.

While we're on sustainability. One of the comments on the full breakdown states we should become sustainable like Brentford.
And this is why things like this fall down. Brentford is not, and never has been, a sustainable club under its current ownership. Take a look at their accounts. Buying cheap and selling high is not keeping them going and that bubble looks set to burst as buying clubs have no money.

50% of those that replied (2.5%) reckon a season ticket isn't value for money. But a Kop season ticket equates to around £20 a game so that must be the opposite 50% to those wanting £20 on the Kop.
Unless it's £20 walk up, in which case a season ticket would have to come out at £12-15 a game.
But 78% think we're not being run in a sustainable way.

If I was Chansiri and I was presented with these figures I'd laugh my head off for a week then wonder what I was doing here.
tylluan, 12/06/2020 at 17:52


Excellent summary mate..

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