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EastCraigsOwl

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#61 12/06/2020 at 19:47

How many of the 1500 were dem blades taking the piss?
P_O_T_R, 12/06/2020 at 14:42

Given that only 68% say the squad has improved under Mr. Chansiri, I'd say the remainder probably are.

I mean, come on, how can anyone say it hasn't improved?

I'm not gonna get too technical with exact dates and such like but, at the beginning of this chapter, the squad included the likes of Giles Coke, Sergiu Bus, Claude Dielna, Stevie May and Jeremy Helan. Our 'superstars' were Westwood and Lees plus possibly Chris Maguire.

Compare that to Fletcher, Forestieri, Reach, etc.. I know we've regressed somewhat since the two play-off seasons but, fucking hell, it could still be a helluva lot worse! 

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MPB

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#62 12/06/2020 at 20:02

This!! 

PARRY CAN GO F@#* HIMSELF!! 

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tylluan

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#63 12/06/2020 at 20:10



Excellent summary mate..

EBRA, 12/06/2020 at 19:12


It's Strafford economics 

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harryspeakup

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#64 13/06/2020 at 00:12

“78% disagree that SWFC are run in a sustainable way”

So wasn’t “22% agree” not a dramatic enough figure for you?

I can prove that Bob’s my uncle with the right worded questions

Q: Would you not disagree that the Wednesday “band” do not add to taking away the match day atmosphere on a non weekday weekend during the pre warm up period and besides the second half usually?

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#65 13/06/2020 at 00:17

Conclusion: 98% want Chansiri out

Please add me to the “fuck off” group  

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#66 13/06/2020 at 00:22

See they've gone quiet.

Fucking cocksniffers 

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#67 13/06/2020 at 07:39

Anyone who thinks our squad hasn’t improved under Chansiri is clearly too biased against him to be rational enough to be involved in any supporters trust. 

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#68 13/06/2020 at 08:09

The squad is better but let's not pretend it could / should have been a whole lot better than it is. Our recruitment in the period after the Wembley play off was not that good. That money should have been used to source younger players  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#69 13/06/2020 at 09:25

A pointless exercise as it will only piss off Chansiri even more and solidify his stubbornness. 

Up The Owls 

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CDLF

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#70 13/06/2020 at 09:48

The squad is better but let's not pretend it could / should have been a whole lot better than it is. Our recruitment in the period after the Wembley play off was not that good. That money should have been used to source younger players
mkowl, 13/06/2020 at 08:09


So why didn't you mention this at the time?

Erm

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#71 13/06/2020 at 10:08

Undervalued, unheard, taken for granted – What Sheffield Wednesday survey means for supporters.

That's the Star's headline on the Survey results.  

13.11.2010 at 20.51 emre...tbh, Hoylands goal gave me a semi 

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tylluan

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#72 13/06/2020 at 11:10

Undervalued, unheard, taken for granted – What Sheffield Wednesday survey means for supporters.

That's the Star's headline on the Survey results.
HoylandOwl, 13/06/2020 at 10:08


Oh for God's sake.

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#73 13/06/2020 at 11:11

That's what I thought too.... Nothing like a bit of sensationalism.

13.11.2010 at 20.51 emre...tbh, Hoylands goal gave me a semi 

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#74 13/06/2020 at 11:12



So why didn't you mention this at the time?

Erm
CDLF, 13/06/2020 at 09:48


I did and have constantly said so ever since

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#75 13/06/2020 at 11:14

Ban
The
Fucking
Star 

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#76 13/06/2020 at 11:30

Undervalued, unheard, taken for granted – What Sheffield Wednesday survey means for supporters.

That's the Star's headline on the Survey results.
HoylandOwl, 13/06/2020 at 10:08


Why hasn’t that Crann fella come on here to gauge a wider view of the feelings of Wednesday fans? That headline should basically say “Thick as fuck, stay at home, casually racist - Yer typical Owlstalk gimp”.

PARRY CAN GO F@#* HIMSELF!! 

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#77 13/06/2020 at 12:51

Antagonising our main source of cash during a financial meltdown, great idea. 

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CDLF

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#78 13/06/2020 at 13:27



I did and have constantly said so ever since

mkowl, 13/06/2020 at 11:12



Ahh!...you missed the sarcasm then? Bigsmile

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HirstysHiTecBoots

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#79 13/06/2020 at 15:23

Hopefully Chansiri will just ban that bog paper rag now 

Up The Owls 

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#80 15/06/2020 at 20:15

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#81 15/06/2020 at 20:27

P_O_T_R, 15/06/2020 at 20:15


I noticed that myself, pretty sure that was meant to deceive. 

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tylluan

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#82 15/06/2020 at 21:18



...but yes this is Tom Hocking posting now.

... We’ve since received offers of help from people with more experience in surveys and data collection, so hopefully the second one won’t receive that criticism, whether it was valid or not – please fill it in and give us feedback, we are always looking to improve the Trust’s work.

...We will obviously correct factual errors, though.
SWFCTrust, 12/06/2020 at 12:06


Tom's Twitter response to the incorrect scaling of the second survey
You're right, it's a poor scale. Human error by me when incorporating late suggestions while doing million other things. Tried to make it clear what the scale is but obv will approach those results with a pinch of salt when analysing. Other questions still key to gathering ideas


Take those results with a pinch of salt???
Surely that jeopardizes the whole set of results.
You can't second guess or take with a pinch of salt the results of those questions.

You tell us you've got help from people more experienced in surveys and data collection.

It's just another fuck up and you're not exactly endearing yourselves 

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#83 15/06/2020 at 21:33

If he's too busy doing a million and one other things to do a survey properly then why did he put himself forward?

Destined to be decisive before it's started. 

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#84 16/06/2020 at 08:06

The mask’s slipped, absolutely 100% trying to bully DC out of the club, trying every trick in the book and giving it the old “what an I like, technology eh!” when they get sussed, who do these c**ts think they are, they got their burning torch mob on ‘stalk revved up though, get back in yer fucking boxes you set of c**ts. 

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PARRY CAN GO F@#* HIMSELF!! 

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#85 16/06/2020 at 10:56

Dunno who that Tom is, but last time i saw a profile picture like that, it was for a public appeal to find a teacher who'd legged it ith a fifth year lass 

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#86 16/06/2020 at 11:11

Dunno who that Tom is, but last time i saw a profile picture like that, it was for a public appeal to find a teacher who'd legged it ith a fifth year lass
Andyben, 16/06/2020 at 10:56


Bigsmile

I'll never buy from AXA again! 

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#87 16/06/2020 at 11:16

P_O_T_R, 15/06/2020 at 20:15


I thought the comment was just humour, but it appears it is true. If people don't fully understand the scale how can you comment accurarelyBigsmileUm

I'll never buy from AXA again! 

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tylluan

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#88 16/07/2020 at 21:05

Got bored at work so went on their site as they'd gone awol.

Apparently they've had a 'very successful' Zoom call with Chansiri who 'reaffirmed his desire to interact with the fans positively' and it was agreed they'd meet on a regular basis to discuss issues the Trusts membership brought up.

Not bad to say it's still just the six of them and they've not launched the membership yet.

They've also passed a motion, amongst themselves, not to hold committee/board elections until September 2021.
No surprise really, as it's their gang and they don't want to lose control.

They've had the second survey back about a month but still need more time to dissect the results.
It's obviously not given them the answers they wanted to see.

And they've decided not to hit the forums again until they have a communication strategy in place.
They got mauled on Stalk as well as here and don't fancy that kind of interaction again.
Bless em

And they're going to publish a response to the EFL judgement once it's out.
Can't wait for that one 

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EBRA

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#89 16/07/2020 at 21:28

Chansiri always said he would meet the fans if they wanted to meet him ...

Chansiri won’t be controlled by the fans though.

At best we can hope he is guided ... oh wait remember when we wanted a big signing like Rhodes, doesn’t work and them everyone claims they never wanted him! Lol 

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Andyben

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#90 16/07/2020 at 21:58

McGugan an all Ebra  

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harryspeakup

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#91 18/07/2020 at 17:41

But have they got a car park yet?

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#92 18/07/2020 at 18:45

Calling all SWFC fans. There’s never been a better time to make your voice heard. Trust memberships are NOW OPEN.  

Click here to join the Trust for just £10 per year!

Membership will get you full voting rights and access to a regular programme of consultation, aimed at promoting positive engagement between the club and the fanbase.

The Supporters' Trust is a members-based, democratic organisation and the only one for Sheffield Wednesday fans that is affiliated to the Football Supporters' Association. You can take a look at the Trust's strategy and actions so far on our website, including updates on initial meetings with the club.

The cost of membership is based on what was most popular in our recent fans’ surveys. The first £1 of it buys you a share in the Trust, the rest will go towards setting up community schemes and the organisation's running costs.

You don’t need to have a PayPal account to buy a membership, just a credit or debit card. Signing up will set up a recurring annual payment, which you can of course cancel at any time.

We hope to add extra benefits to membership as the Trust evolves and more people get involved, so make sure you also sign up to our mailing list as well to stay up to date.

Up the Owls 

Building a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust. Find out more: swfctrust.co.uk 

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#93 18/07/2020 at 18:50

Out of interest what kind of community schemes?
Genuine question, not a dig.  

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#94 18/07/2020 at 18:54

Voting rights on what? You've already said there'll be no board elections until September 2021 so for that reason i'm out 

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#95 18/07/2020 at 19:29

Why does today, a Saturday, less than 2 hours after the final whistle and another defeat constitute 'never been a better time to have our voice heard'??  

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#97 18/07/2020 at 19:57

Why does today, a Saturday, less than 2 hours after the final whistle and another defeat constitute 'never been a better time to have our voice heard'??
Lee, 18/07/2020 at 19:29


A bit like a vulture flying above someone at deaths door  

World Peace is None of Your Business 

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#98 18/07/2020 at 20:08

Will the “regular programme of consultation” include all fans or just members?

I accept that an open consultation can be derailed by fans of other clubs, but restricting consultation to members won’t get a fair representation of the views of the genuine fan base either. 

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#99 18/07/2020 at 20:48

On the subject of when elections will be held, the minutes from which you refer to "September 2021" were part of a discussion about the structure of the interim board and how long they would need to guide the Trust for before elections could be held. The minutes state "June-September 2021", September being the latest elections could be held within Society rules.

The Society rules, which are the model rules supplied by the Football Supporters' Association, state that the first AGM shall be called in the period that runs up to six months after the end of the financial year. Elections take place in the run up to the AGM. Accounts must also be presented at the AGM and those must undergo an independent review. We are committed to holding elections as soon as possible but in practice it is unlikely we will be able to hold the AGM earlier than June 2021. In the meantime though, it is the interim board's job to guide the Trust to the AGM and represent its members – we'd encourage you to join and have your say on the Trust's activities.

In terms of community schemes, these will ultimately be decided by the members and what the budgets allow. Various ideas have been floated. A few specific ones that we canvassed opinion on in the second survey (report from that coming soon, which will also explain why it has been delayed):

Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There were also a lot of suggestions and ideas from respondents to the second survey, which we are looking into.

On the question of consultation. We have so far done our best to canvass opinion from a wide range of fans via the two surveys you may already be aware of. We were pleased with the level of engagement with those and there was no evidence of tampering from other sets of fans, as the report from the first survey explained. Obviously our plans to consult with fans in person in pubs, outside the ground etc on matchdays have so far been scuppered by Covid-19 but openness and ensuring we reach different demographics is high on the interim board's agenda.

As a democratic organisation, the Trust will always be guided by its members. If you are worried about your own views not being heard, the best way to do this is to join – you will then have as much of a say in the Trust's activities as anyone else. Through our initial meetings with the club we have already encouraged them to take on board a range of fan opinions and embark on wider consultation with the fanbase. This is something we hope to discuss at a future meeting, again with guidance from the members.

Sorry for the long post, I hope that answers your questions.

P.s. We actually launched this morning on social media, before the defeat! The rest of the team looked after that, but unexpected family commitments meant I've only just had a chance to post on the forums (we're all volunteers trying to make it work) 

Building a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust. Find out more: swfctrust.co.uk 

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#100 18/07/2020 at 21:52



Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There's a lot in there that requires specialist insurance as your standard public liability won't cover it. For example the fitness in Hillsborough Park would require permission from the park's trustees and a specialist instructor. Their insurance wouldn't cover it as you're the organiser. Similarly with the walking football and 5-a-side and any other group activity that carries a modicum of risk. (And that would also include the lift shares as you're the organisers)
The food bank, great save, and football memories are good ideas.
Providing coaches and equipment could cost a lot of money. Neither come cheap.
Would the regional groups have to be Trust affiliated?

You get 2000 members and you still might not cover the cost of what you'd like to do 

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#101 18/07/2020 at 22:02

Sorry Ty but the charity I'm involved in regularly gets in specialist trainers, therapists and consultants and we put in place a Service Level Agreement (SLA) and they provide their own insurance. We couldn't afford it all.  

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#102 18/07/2020 at 22:42

I'll stand corrected fella.
Just going on my personal experience when working with not for profit organisations. I'm insured up to the eyeballs, both personally and governing bodies and yet they always sort themselves out.
It might be down to the number they use and the chopping and changing. Some others they use might have less cover.

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#103 19/07/2020 at 01:09

Afraid I 'm a Marxist - Groucho Marxist " I wouldn't join a club that had me as a member "  

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#104 19/07/2020 at 01:14

On the subject of when elections will be held, the minutes from which you refer to "September 2021" were part of a discussion about the structure of the interim board and how long they would need to guide the Trust for before elections could be held. The minutes state "June-September 2021", September being the latest elections could be held within Society rules.

The Society rules, which are the model rules supplied by the Football Supporters' Association, state that the first AGM shall be called in the period that runs up to six months after the end of the financial year. Elections take place in the run up to the AGM. Accounts must also be presented at the AGM and those must undergo an independent review. We are committed to holding elections as soon as possible but in practice it is unlikely we will be able to hold the AGM earlier than June 2021. In the meantime though, it is the interim board's job to guide the Trust to the AGM and represent its members – we'd encourage you to join and have your say on the Trust's activities.

In terms of community schemes, these will ultimately be decided by the members and what the budgets allow. Various ideas have been floated. A few specific ones that we canvassed opinion on in the second survey (report from that coming soon, which will also explain why it has been delayed):
Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There were also a lot of suggestions and ideas from respondents to the second survey, which we are looking into.

On the question of consultation. We have so far done our best to canvass opinion from a wide range of fans via the two surveys you may already be aware of.
We were pleased with the level of engagement with those and there was no evidence of tampering from other sets of fans, as the report from the first survey explained. Obviously our plans to consult with fans in person in pubs, outside the ground etc on matchdays have so far been scuppered by Covid-19 but openness and ensuring we reach different demographics is high on the interim board's agenda.

As a democratic organisation, the Trust will always be guided by its members. If you are worried about your own views not being heard, the best way to do this is to join – you will then have as much of a say in the Trust's activities as anyone else. Through our initial meetings with the club we have already encouraged them to take on board a range of fan opinions and embark on wider consultation with the fanbase. This is something we hope to discuss at a
future meeting, again with guidance from the members.

Sorry for the long post, I hope that answers your questions.

P.s. We actually launched this morning on social media, before the defeat! The rest of the team looked after that, but unexpected family commitments meant I've only just had a chance to post on the forums (we're all volunteers trying to make it work)
SWFCTrust, 18/07/2020 at 20:48


Rebels without a mandate. Give it up FFS, we've heard it all before. Cringeworthy gimps looking for fame. 

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#105 19/07/2020 at 05:03

On the subject of when elections will be held, the minutes from which you refer to "September 2021" were part of a discussion about the structure of the interim board and how long they would need to guide the Trust for before elections could be held. The minutes state "June-September 2021", September being the latest elections could be held within Society rules.

The Society rules, which are the model rules supplied by the Football Supporters' Association, state that the first AGM shall be called in the period that runs up to six months after the end of the financial year. Elections take place in the run up to the AGM. Accounts must also be presented at the AGM and those must undergo an independent review. We are committed to holding elections as soon as possible but in practice it is unlikely we will be able to hold the AGM earlier than June 2021. In the meantime though, it is the interim board's job to guide the Trust to the AGM and represent its members – we'd encourage you to join and have your say on the Trust's activities.

In terms of community schemes, these will ultimately be decided by the members and what the budgets allow. Various ideas have been floated. A few specific ones that we canvassed opinion on in the second survey (report from that coming soon, which will also explain why it has been delayed):

Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There were also a lot of suggestions and ideas from respondents to the second survey, which we are looking into.

On the question of consultation. We have so far done our best to canvass opinion from a wide range of fans via the two surveys you may already be aware of. We were pleased with the level of engagement with those and there was no evidence of tampering from other sets of fans, as the report from the first survey explained. Obviously our plans to consult with fans in person in pubs, outside the ground etc on matchdays have so far been scuppered by Covid-19 but openness and ensuring we reach different demographics is high on the interim board's agenda.

As a democratic organisation, the Trust will always be guided by its members. If you are worried about your own views not being heard, the best way to do this is to join – you will then have as much of a say in the Trust's activities as anyone else. Through our initial meetings with the club we have already encouraged them to take on board a range of fan opinions and embark on wider consultation with the fanbase. This is something we hope to discuss at a future meeting, again with guidance from the members.

Sorry for the long post, I hope that answers your questions.

P.s. We actually launched this morning on social media, before the defeat! The rest of the team looked after that, but unexpected family commitments meant I've only just had a chance to post on the forums (we're all volunteers trying to make it work)
SWFCTrust, 18/07/2020 at 20:48


You're c**ts, that's it, you're actually all fucking spackers  

Consilio et Animis 

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#106 19/07/2020 at 08:05

“September being the latest elections could be held within Society rules”

So why pick the latest?

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#107 19/07/2020 at 08:08

I will be a more friendly voice

If they can keep the egos out of it and stick to the core aims of being a Trust - that is not thinking you have any right to be heard by the Club on non fan matters and even then that is limited (don't think you have a say on ticket prices) you might stand a chance.

Saying that I will always be a supporter of an English version of the German system.

Might stop some of the financial nonsense and dodgy owners eg Wigan, Bury if we did

The other recommendation - don't make yourself out to be the voice of the fans or go into the media saying you are. You are simply the voice of the members of the Trust

Final recommendation work with the club, don't throw your dummies out the pram if you don't. Never order black balloons 

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#108 19/07/2020 at 08:30

I will be a more friendly voice

If they can keep the egos out of it and stick to the core aims of being a Trust - that is not thinking you have any right to be heard by the Club on non fan matters and even then that is limited (don't think you have a say on ticket prices) you might stand a chance.

Saying that I will always be a supporter of an English version of the German system.

Might stop some of the financial nonsense and dodgy owners eg Wigan, Bury if we did

The other recommendation - don't make yourself out to be the voice of the fans or go into the media saying you are. You are simply the voice of the members of the Trust

Final recommendation work with the club, don't throw your dummies out the pram if you don't. Never order black balloons
mkowl, 19/07/2020 at 08:08


They have an agenda already pal. Same shit different day  

Consilio et Animis 

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#109 19/07/2020 at 08:57

Fair enough - not getting involved beyond a passing interest. Done my shit  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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CDLF

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#110 19/07/2020 at 11:31



Rebels without a mandate. Give it up FFS, we've heard it all before. Cringeworthy gimps looking for fame.
ProfessorPlum, 19/07/2020 at 01:14


In a nutshell.

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#111 19/07/2020 at 11:43



Rebels without a mandate. Give it up FFS, we've heard it all before. Cringeworthy gimps looking for fame.
ProfessorPlum, 19/07/2020 at 01:14


Or genuine lifelong fans who are fed up with the current state of the club?

I won't be getting involved but comments from you and your friends cannot be described as constructive criticism but I wouldn't expect anything else. Some comments however are constructive in their criticism. I'll accept that previous administrations at Hillsborough have been worthy of criticism but somehow you believe this chairman is bulletproof. I have always believed that the guy at the top should take responsibility but that's where we differ. You'll blame the workforce. Difference between capitalism and socialism as one of your friends pointed out to me.

All I know is that I'll be supporting the team I love home and away until my health prevents me. (Whoever is chairman and manager) I also know I'm lucky to afford to do that.  

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CDLF

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#112 19/07/2020 at 12:08



Or genuine lifelong fans who are fed up with the current state of the club?

I won't be getting involved but comments from you and your friends cannot be described as constructive criticism but I wouldn't expect anything else. Some comments however are constructive in their criticism. I'll accept that previous administrations at Hillsborough have been worthy of criticism but somehow you believe this chairman is bulletproof. I have always believed that the guy at the top should take responsibility but that's where we differ. You'll blame the workforce. Difference between capitalism and socialism as one of your friends pointed out to me.

All I know is that I'll be supporting the team I love home and away until my health prevents me. (Whoever is chairman and manager) I also know I'm lucky to afford to do that.
TommyCraig, 19/07/2020 at 11:43


Ayup Tommy, it's always good to hear a different take on reality.

The Chairman is bulletproof because he own the club lock stock and barrel. Thumbsup Professor Plum is not my mate, I don't know him from Adam Plain and please don't keep bringing politics into every thread. Ninja

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#113 19/07/2020 at 12:20

I believe it was you who mentioned capitalism and socialism in a comment directed at me a few days ago. A bit rich telling me not to bring politics into it?

It's precisely the fact what you point out about the chairman that has always worried me. No accountability! 

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#114 19/07/2020 at 12:25

Both sides to this are correct to be fair.

Chansiri owns the club. Lock, stock and barrel. He can do what the fuck he wants when he wants and if he wants.

That doesn't make him immune to criticism from the fans.  

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#115 19/07/2020 at 16:37

Both sides to this are correct to be fair.

Chansiri owns the club. Lock, stock and barrel. He can do what the fuck he wants when he wants and if he wants.

That doesn't make him immune to criticism from the fans.
Skamp, 19/07/2020 at 12:25


True, but also means those criticising need to calm down a bit and be rational, and need to be very careful what they wish for.

I see people on Twitter saying Chansiri needs to ‘go’ as if he was a manager we can sack. Such ignorance would be funny if it wasn’t so prevalent.

Whether it’s a good thing for an individual to have all the shares and be sole director in the club is a different matter, but whilst that is the case we are stuck with him like it or not. So might as well try and get behind the bloke as he wants the same as what we all do at the end of the day.  

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#116 19/07/2020 at 17:11

I believe it was you who mentioned capitalism and socialism in a comment directed at me a few days ago. A bit rich telling me not to bring politics into it?

It's precisely the fact what you point out about the chairman that has always worried me. No accountability!
TommyCraig, 19/07/2020 at 12:20


FFS Tommy, don't you have a sense of humour.Rolleyes

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#117 19/07/2020 at 19:18



Or genuine lifelong fans who are fed up with the current state of the club?

I won't be getting involved but comments from you and your friends cannot be described as constructive criticism but I wouldn't expect anything else. Some comments however are constructive in their criticism. I'll accept that previous administrations at Hillsborough have been worthy of criticism but somehow you believe this chairman is bulletproof. I have always believed that the guy at the top should take responsibility but that's where we differ. You'll blame the workforce. Difference between capitalism and socialism as one of your friends pointed out to me.

All I know is that I'll be supporting the team I love home and away until my health prevents me. (Whoever is chairman and manager) I also know I'm lucky to afford to do that.
TommyCraig, 19/07/2020 at 11:43


Lifelong fans wanting a bit of fame more like, clear and simple, right on the backs of silly fuckers like you. I take it you've took their shilling then have you? Fully paid up member are you?
Why do you have to make everything so personal?Bigsmile
As for you loving the club? That's just impossible for you, communism and love are incompatible, thought you'd have been fully briefed on that during your indoctrination.
If you want to hurt the chairman, don't buy his tickets, that's capitalism for you.Bigsmile

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#118 20/07/2020 at 13:37

https://mobile.twitter.com/SWFCTrust/stat us/1285186180682846208

Are people going to actually give them money? 

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#119 20/07/2020 at 17:11

“The cost of membership is based on what was most popular in our recent fans’ surveys”

So instead of having an idea of how many members they might probably get and how much money they would need and working out how much the membership would need to be they decide to go with what the public “picked”.

I can’t find the question but probably a classic case of giving the people a choice of what they want the answer to be and letting the people think they picked it.

Like forcing a card on someone in a card trick. 

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#120 20/07/2020 at 19:31

https://mobile.twitter.com/SWFCTrust/stat us/1285186180682846208

Are people going to actually give them money?
P_O_T_R, 20/07/2020 at 13:37


One reply " We need to overthrow Chansiri the clown " Rolleyes

And I thought I was a fucking idiot  

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