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harryspeakup

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#91 18/07/2020 at 17:41

But have they got a car park yet?

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SWFCTrust

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#92 18/07/2020 at 18:45

Calling all SWFC fans. There’s never been a better time to make your voice heard. Trust memberships are NOW OPEN.  

Click here to join the Trust for just £10 per year!

Membership will get you full voting rights and access to a regular programme of consultation, aimed at promoting positive engagement between the club and the fanbase.

The Supporters' Trust is a members-based, democratic organisation and the only one for Sheffield Wednesday fans that is affiliated to the Football Supporters' Association. You can take a look at the Trust's strategy and actions so far on our website, including updates on initial meetings with the club.

The cost of membership is based on what was most popular in our recent fans’ surveys. The first £1 of it buys you a share in the Trust, the rest will go towards setting up community schemes and the organisation's running costs.

You don’t need to have a PayPal account to buy a membership, just a credit or debit card. Signing up will set up a recurring annual payment, which you can of course cancel at any time.

We hope to add extra benefits to membership as the Trust evolves and more people get involved, so make sure you also sign up to our mailing list as well to stay up to date.

Up the Owls 

Building a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust. Find out more: swfctrust.co.uk 

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#93 18/07/2020 at 18:50

Out of interest what kind of community schemes?
Genuine question, not a dig.  

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#94 18/07/2020 at 18:54

Voting rights on what? You've already said there'll be no board elections until September 2021 so for that reason i'm out 

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#95 18/07/2020 at 19:29

Why does today, a Saturday, less than 2 hours after the final whistle and another defeat constitute 'never been a better time to have our voice heard'??  

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#97 18/07/2020 at 19:57

Why does today, a Saturday, less than 2 hours after the final whistle and another defeat constitute 'never been a better time to have our voice heard'??
Lee, 18/07/2020 at 19:29


A bit like a vulture flying above someone at deaths door  

World Peace is None of Your Business 

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WallaceAndGrummitt

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#98 18/07/2020 at 20:08

Will the “regular programme of consultation” include all fans or just members?

I accept that an open consultation can be derailed by fans of other clubs, but restricting consultation to members won’t get a fair representation of the views of the genuine fan base either. 

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SWFCTrust

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#99 18/07/2020 at 20:48

On the subject of when elections will be held, the minutes from which you refer to "September 2021" were part of a discussion about the structure of the interim board and how long they would need to guide the Trust for before elections could be held. The minutes state "June-September 2021", September being the latest elections could be held within Society rules.

The Society rules, which are the model rules supplied by the Football Supporters' Association, state that the first AGM shall be called in the period that runs up to six months after the end of the financial year. Elections take place in the run up to the AGM. Accounts must also be presented at the AGM and those must undergo an independent review. We are committed to holding elections as soon as possible but in practice it is unlikely we will be able to hold the AGM earlier than June 2021. In the meantime though, it is the interim board's job to guide the Trust to the AGM and represent its members – we'd encourage you to join and have your say on the Trust's activities.

In terms of community schemes, these will ultimately be decided by the members and what the budgets allow. Various ideas have been floated. A few specific ones that we canvassed opinion on in the second survey (report from that coming soon, which will also explain why it has been delayed):

Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There were also a lot of suggestions and ideas from respondents to the second survey, which we are looking into.

On the question of consultation. We have so far done our best to canvass opinion from a wide range of fans via the two surveys you may already be aware of. We were pleased with the level of engagement with those and there was no evidence of tampering from other sets of fans, as the report from the first survey explained. Obviously our plans to consult with fans in person in pubs, outside the ground etc on matchdays have so far been scuppered by Covid-19 but openness and ensuring we reach different demographics is high on the interim board's agenda.

As a democratic organisation, the Trust will always be guided by its members. If you are worried about your own views not being heard, the best way to do this is to join – you will then have as much of a say in the Trust's activities as anyone else. Through our initial meetings with the club we have already encouraged them to take on board a range of fan opinions and embark on wider consultation with the fanbase. This is something we hope to discuss at a future meeting, again with guidance from the members.

Sorry for the long post, I hope that answers your questions.

P.s. We actually launched this morning on social media, before the defeat! The rest of the team looked after that, but unexpected family commitments meant I've only just had a chance to post on the forums (we're all volunteers trying to make it work) 

Building a new Sheffield Wednesday Supporters’ Trust. Find out more: swfctrust.co.uk 

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tylluan

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#100 18/07/2020 at 21:52



Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There's a lot in there that requires specialist insurance as your standard public liability won't cover it. For example the fitness in Hillsborough Park would require permission from the park's trustees and a specialist instructor. Their insurance wouldn't cover it as you're the organiser. Similarly with the walking football and 5-a-side and any other group activity that carries a modicum of risk. (And that would also include the lift shares as you're the organisers)
The food bank, great save, and football memories are good ideas.
Providing coaches and equipment could cost a lot of money. Neither come cheap.
Would the regional groups have to be Trust affiliated?

You get 2000 members and you still might not cover the cost of what you'd like to do 

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#101 18/07/2020 at 22:02

Sorry Ty but the charity I'm involved in regularly gets in specialist trainers, therapists and consultants and we put in place a Service Level Agreement (SLA) and they provide their own insurance. We couldn't afford it all.  

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tylluan

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#102 18/07/2020 at 22:42

I'll stand corrected fella.
Just going on my personal experience when working with not for profit organisations. I'm insured up to the eyeballs, both personally and governing bodies and yet they always sort themselves out.
It might be down to the number they use and the chopping and changing. Some others they use might have less cover.

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#103 19/07/2020 at 01:09

Afraid I 'm a Marxist - Groucho Marxist " I wouldn't join a club that had me as a member "  

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#104 19/07/2020 at 01:14

On the subject of when elections will be held, the minutes from which you refer to "September 2021" were part of a discussion about the structure of the interim board and how long they would need to guide the Trust for before elections could be held. The minutes state "June-September 2021", September being the latest elections could be held within Society rules.

The Society rules, which are the model rules supplied by the Football Supporters' Association, state that the first AGM shall be called in the period that runs up to six months after the end of the financial year. Elections take place in the run up to the AGM. Accounts must also be presented at the AGM and those must undergo an independent review. We are committed to holding elections as soon as possible but in practice it is unlikely we will be able to hold the AGM earlier than June 2021. In the meantime though, it is the interim board's job to guide the Trust to the AGM and represent its members – we'd encourage you to join and have your say on the Trust's activities.

In terms of community schemes, these will ultimately be decided by the members and what the budgets allow. Various ideas have been floated. A few specific ones that we canvassed opinion on in the second survey (report from that coming soon, which will also explain why it has been delayed):
Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There were also a lot of suggestions and ideas from respondents to the second survey, which we are looking into.

On the question of consultation. We have so far done our best to canvass opinion from a wide range of fans via the two surveys you may already be aware of.
We were pleased with the level of engagement with those and there was no evidence of tampering from other sets of fans, as the report from the first survey explained. Obviously our plans to consult with fans in person in pubs, outside the ground etc on matchdays have so far been scuppered by Covid-19 but openness and ensuring we reach different demographics is high on the interim board's agenda.

As a democratic organisation, the Trust will always be guided by its members. If you are worried about your own views not being heard, the best way to do this is to join – you will then have as much of a say in the Trust's activities as anyone else. Through our initial meetings with the club we have already encouraged them to take on board a range of fan opinions and embark on wider consultation with the fanbase. This is something we hope to discuss at a
future meeting, again with guidance from the members.

Sorry for the long post, I hope that answers your questions.

P.s. We actually launched this morning on social media, before the defeat! The rest of the team looked after that, but unexpected family commitments meant I've only just had a chance to post on the forums (we're all volunteers trying to make it work)
SWFCTrust, 18/07/2020 at 20:48


Rebels without a mandate. Give it up FFS, we've heard it all before. Cringeworthy gimps looking for fame. 

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Reesh1867

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#105 19/07/2020 at 05:03

On the subject of when elections will be held, the minutes from which you refer to "September 2021" were part of a discussion about the structure of the interim board and how long they would need to guide the Trust for before elections could be held. The minutes state "June-September 2021", September being the latest elections could be held within Society rules.

The Society rules, which are the model rules supplied by the Football Supporters' Association, state that the first AGM shall be called in the period that runs up to six months after the end of the financial year. Elections take place in the run up to the AGM. Accounts must also be presented at the AGM and those must undergo an independent review. We are committed to holding elections as soon as possible but in practice it is unlikely we will be able to hold the AGM earlier than June 2021. In the meantime though, it is the interim board's job to guide the Trust to the AGM and represent its members – we'd encourage you to join and have your say on the Trust's activities.

In terms of community schemes, these will ultimately be decided by the members and what the budgets allow. Various ideas have been floated. A few specific ones that we canvassed opinion on in the second survey (report from that coming soon, which will also explain why it has been delayed):

Foodbank collections for S6 Food Bank
Running/fitness clubs, probably in Hillsborough Park
Sporting memories club – bringing older people together to talk about sport, combatting loneliness (there is a great charity called Sporting Memories Foundation that the Trust could potentially partner with)
Supporting SWFC Community Programme
Supporting local junior clubs with coaching and equipment
Providing lift share/transport for people normally unable to get to games
Associated sports teams such a walking football, five-a-side, darts, snooker etc
Expanding regional supporters' groups
The Great Save – joining this campaign to preserve and share football memorabilia
Fundraising for a nominated charity in the local area

There were also a lot of suggestions and ideas from respondents to the second survey, which we are looking into.

On the question of consultation. We have so far done our best to canvass opinion from a wide range of fans via the two surveys you may already be aware of. We were pleased with the level of engagement with those and there was no evidence of tampering from other sets of fans, as the report from the first survey explained. Obviously our plans to consult with fans in person in pubs, outside the ground etc on matchdays have so far been scuppered by Covid-19 but openness and ensuring we reach different demographics is high on the interim board's agenda.

As a democratic organisation, the Trust will always be guided by its members. If you are worried about your own views not being heard, the best way to do this is to join – you will then have as much of a say in the Trust's activities as anyone else. Through our initial meetings with the club we have already encouraged them to take on board a range of fan opinions and embark on wider consultation with the fanbase. This is something we hope to discuss at a future meeting, again with guidance from the members.

Sorry for the long post, I hope that answers your questions.

P.s. We actually launched this morning on social media, before the defeat! The rest of the team looked after that, but unexpected family commitments meant I've only just had a chance to post on the forums (we're all volunteers trying to make it work)
SWFCTrust, 18/07/2020 at 20:48


You're c**ts, that's it, you're actually all fucking spackers  

Consilio et Animis 

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