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KingMong

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#16 23/07/2020 at 09:20

I will try and raise spirits a bit......

The second half of this season has been awful. Statistically it must be one of the worst half seasons ever, but we have had worse and are still here.

Everything seems shit at the moment but it always does after a defeat. A 1-0 win last night (which could easily have happened) and we wouldn’t be feeling this bad.

Yes the off field stuff is concerning and I agree with MK that there seems to be a lack of plan and direction. But if the results were OK all that wouldn’t seem to matter as much. It has to start with the manager and either Monk will get sacked or he will sort it out, that is my genuine view. We have a chance now to sort out the squad for the first time in ages.

We could very well win this case with the EFL and the sword of Damocles will be removed. It’s hard to be optimistic but, even if we do get a points deduction we deal with it and move on, it’s done.

It won’t be long before we can get back to Hillsborough and we all know that, no matter how crap we are, we will all still have that buzz when we go back.

Stay positive and remember that, no matter who owns the club, who the manager is and how crap or great the players are, the true soul of the club lives within all of us and no one can take that away.
Chelters, 23/07/2020 at 07:44


I agree here too.

People forget about off-field issues when things are ok on the field. When things go wrong on the pitch, and let’s be clear, it’s been an utterly embarrassing and shameful end to a season, then all the off field issues get added on. And we are in an era where all info is available at all times. This has been compounded by the EFL shadow too.

The reality is that, the club has around 7 weeks to rebuild. This is easily the biggest rebuild of my lifetime as we are so short of quality and even bodies, that we are going to need to bring 8-10 in to stay in the division, and to challenge at the top, we need those 8-10 to work out. We’ve seen that this last 23 games this squad is not nearly good enough to stay up. 

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#17 23/07/2020 at 09:21

Why is everyone assuming there’s no plan? The release of players and links to younger players suggests there’s a plan.

I’ll wait and see how it pans out before I throw all my toys out of the pram
bartos1976, 23/07/2020 at 08:26


Good post! 

It’s down to you now Garry!!! OH, AND FUCK THE EFL!!!! 

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tylluan

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#18 23/07/2020 at 11:21

No one knows how much wiggle room we have in respect to P&S next season until the latest set of accounts is released. So signing a promotion winning team, full of hungry young players, might not be on the cards.
Winning this doesn't mean we start again. The rolling 3 years still continues and could end up getting hit again for P&S if we spend and don't go up.
And the next time will be harder to get out of, especially as Parry will be scrutinising every penny we spend and bring in.
If he loses this round then he'll go after the sponsorship deals with non operating companies.

We need a five year plan with two seasons of consolidation and minimal spend. If that means raiding the loan market, Looking lower league, going for free transfers, and bring the kids on then so be it. That way we'll have cleared whatever else comes our way, consolidated our league position (further points deductions excepted), and then we can organise a promotion push.
In these two seasons we can also future proof our 'promotion push' by building up a database of constantly watched players that we think will help get us promoted. This way we're not just buying 'off the shelf' that we hope will work but more than likely won't.
This two years would also help us to invest in a manager. One that will understand and work with the new recruitment policy, or have his own that matches the vision.
The growth of the squad would be continuous, over the two years, so the players integrated into the club ethos and bought into us and not just the wage. I don't want a kid from Man City who's coming because he wants first team football. I want a player that, even after all we've just been through, says fuck me. Wednesday want me to play for them. This manager wants me. That way when they hold their first press conference and starting talking about massive club, pleasure to be here, etc, they actually mean it.
Wilder had a dossier (and still does) of every player he thought would work for him. Half the players he brought to the sty he'd been tracking while at Northampton. He knew he couldn't buy them while he was there but it didn't stop him doing his preparation for if he went elsewhere.
That's what we want. Bruce was probably tracking Murphy for Villa, before he came to us, along with others.
It has to be someone currently in the game as well. If that means a lower league manager then so be it. They might be hungrier to make it work.

Two years of mid table and then push. 

Post edited on 23/07/2020 at 11:23 by tylluan

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CDLF

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#19 23/07/2020 at 13:20

You make it sound very doable Ty. So WTF have we been doing these past 20 years.

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Owling_Wolf

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#20 23/07/2020 at 13:26

You make it sound very doable Ty. So WTF have we been doing these past 20 years.

Bigsmile
CDLF, 23/07/2020 at 13:20

Being hamstrung, virtually all of that time.  

We must not give opposition teams hope. We have to kill them. 

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Beaconowl

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#21 23/07/2020 at 13:27

You make it sound very doable Ty. So WTF have we been doing these past 20 years.

Bigsmile
CDLF, 23/07/2020 at 13:20


As Walkley says, Dave Richards fucked us reet good and proper Wanker

Post edited on 23/07/2020 at 13:28 by Beaconowl

Its now or never 

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mkowl

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#22 23/07/2020 at 14:08



As Walkley says, Dave Richards fucked us reet good and proper Wanker
Beaconowl , 23/07/2020 at 13:27


Lot of water under a lot of bridges since then  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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TommyCraig6

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#23 23/07/2020 at 14:41



Lot of water under a lot of bridges since then
mkowl, 23/07/2020 at 14:08


Well said. This chairman is as much to blame for current state of club.

Watching Barnsley's players and especially their managers reaction to pulling off the great escape keeps my love for the game burning. To see a foreigner react like he did says it all.

I just cannot understand Monk playing Wickham in front of Rhodes. Wickham had no interest for a fight whatsoever and we'll never see him again. Same goes for Windass? Rhodes has another year!  

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Reesh1867

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#24 23/07/2020 at 16:10



Well said. This chairman is as much to blame for current state of club.

Watching Barnsley's players and especially their managers reaction to pulling off the great escape keeps my love for the game burning. To see a foreigner react like he did says it all.

I just cannot understand Monk playing Wickham in front of Rhodes. Wickham had no interest for a fight whatsoever and we'll never see him again. Same goes for Windass? Rhodes has another year!
TommyCraig6, 23/07/2020 at 14:41


Jesus wept.

You really are a fucking redneck.  

Consilio et Animis 

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winco

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#25 23/07/2020 at 16:24



Lot of water under a lot of bridges since then
mkowl, 23/07/2020 at 14:08


We had our chance and blew it. 

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mkowl

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#26 23/07/2020 at 16:32



We had our chance and blew it.
winco, 23/07/2020 at 16:24


But everyone had a lovely time at Wembley that is all that matters  

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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P_O_T_R

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#27 23/07/2020 at 16:38

Next final appearance due roughly around 2025!

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Laugh

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tylluan

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#28 23/07/2020 at 17:32

Chansiri got side tracked by the whole 'we're going up before the anniversary' spiel.

If we'd have gone with a five year plan from the moment he walked through the door then, spending his money more wisely, we'd have probably been promoted by now.  

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WednesdaysChild

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#29 23/07/2020 at 18:49



Well said. This chairman is as much to blame for current state of club.

Watching Barnsley's players and especially their managers reaction to pulling off the great escape keeps my love for the game burning. To see a foreigner react like he did says it all.

I just cannot understand Monk playing Wickham in front of Rhodes. Wickham had no interest for a fight whatsoever and we'll never see him again. Same goes for Windass? Rhodes has another year!
TommyCraig6, 23/07/2020 at 14:41


Chasiri is not the problem, some things i don't agree with but DC is'nt the real cause. 

I'll never buy from AXA again! 

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ProfessorPlum

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#30 23/07/2020 at 19:12



But everyone had a lovely time at Wembley that is all that matters
mkowl, 23/07/2020 at 16:32



Did I really? Thanks for letting me know cos I can't remember much about it. 

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