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Andyben

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#31 23/07/2020 at 19:59



Chasiri is not the problem, some things i don't agree with but DC is'nt the real cause.
WednesdaysChild, 23/07/2020 at 18:49


True we've already unanimously established that all goes back to Eric Taylor, otherwise Wed have seen success in the 60's onwards on a par with Liverpool in the 70's/80's. 

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Tank_Owl

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#32 23/07/2020 at 20:09

Next final appearance due roughly around 2025!

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P_O_T_R, 23/07/2020 at 16:38


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canterburyowl

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#33 23/07/2020 at 22:28

Get that snidey c**t Monk out then get Cowleys in. Give them autonomy to build a 1,2,3,4,5 whatever year plan and then have a full reset. From what they did at Lincoln they seemed to understand this process. They would be aware of who the top players are in la liga 1 and 2 also which is where we will be shopping. The days of Fletchers, Fessi's and Abdis etc are long long gone.

Pearson or Hughton I would like also but doubt they will come.  

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TommyCraig6

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#34 23/07/2020 at 23:13



Chasiri is not the problem, some things i don't agree with but DC is'nt the real cause.
WednesdaysChild, 23/07/2020 at 18:49


Is he blameless ? Who is to blame? 

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TommyCraig6

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#35 23/07/2020 at 23:18



True we've already unanimously established that all goes back to Eric Taylor, otherwise Wed have seen success in the 60's onwards on a par with Liverpool in the 70's/80's.
Andyben, 23/07/2020 at 19:59


You are a joke. Mind you, you're lot are still blaming Labour after 10 years.

Don't know how old you are but I bet you don't remember players who were proud to play for us for a pittance compared with wages today. How many times have Wednesday broken any transfer records since Eric Taylor?
I hope you are one of those on here who has given up on them..  

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WednesdaysChild

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#36 24/07/2020 at 07:31



Is he blameless ? Who is to blame?
TommyCraig6, 23/07/2020 at 23:13


Anyone who wears the shirt And hasn't given 100%. Anyone who has given poor advice to DC. Managers with insufficient tactical nous. Anyone who hasn't played to the club when they have been fit , But there has been some other issue causing it.

It is not hard to find a whole string of reasons. 

I'll never buy from AXA again! 

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star

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#37 24/07/2020 at 08:08



Is he blameless ? Who is to blame?
TommyCraig6, 23/07/2020 at 23:13


No he isn't blameless and if you read what people actually post the you might see that they have said he has made mistakes.

As for the second part in your case it seems to be any foreign owner we have had, as I can't remember you blaming the old locals who nearly took us out of business or any of the other owners pre Mandaric 

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Andyben

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#38 24/07/2020 at 08:56



You are a joke. Mind you, you're lot are still blaming Labour after 10 years.

Don't know how old you are but I bet you don't remember players who were proud to play for us for a pittance compared with wages today. How many times have Wednesday broken any transfer records since Eric Taylor?
I hope you are one of those on here who has given up on them..
TommyCraig6, 23/07/2020 at 23:18


Players like Swann Kay & Layne?

Transfer records, imagine how many times we would have done so as English & European champions throughout the 60's & 70's 

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TommyCraig6

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#39 24/07/2020 at 10:14



True we've already unanimously established that all goes back to Eric Taylor, otherwise Wed have seen success in the 60's onwards on a par with Liverpool in the 70's/80's.
Andyben, 23/07/2020 at 19:59


Why don't you blame the referee in the 1930 FA Cup semi-final?  

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Andyben

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#40 24/07/2020 at 10:43

That would be silly 

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HoylandOwl

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#41 24/07/2020 at 10:46



You are a joke. Mind you, you're lot are still blaming Labour after 10 years.

Don't know how old you are but I bet you don't remember players who were proud to play for us for a pittance compared with wages today. How many times have Wednesday broken any transfer records since Eric Taylor?
I hope you are one of those on here who has given up on them..
TommyCraig6, 23/07/2020 at 23:18


Tommy,
The issue with comments like that are, NO player is prepared to play for a pittance anymore.
Look at the average pay leak that came out here a bit back - https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/huge-wage-ga p-in-efl-revealed-1-6630284

The average wage for the best-paid players at Championship clubs is a staggering £29,000 a week - with the league’s highest-earner pocketing £68,000 every seven days – while League One’s top players are paid an average of ‘just’ £4,753 a week

So playing for a pittance won't ever happen in the Football League, those days are LONG gone. There won't be many players now that stay at 'their' club because they love to be there, if there's any club looking at coming in and offering them a sizeable wage rise, they're off. The game has changed entirely.
It has fostered a number of players who are 'in it for the money' and who's fault is that?  

13.11.2010 at 20.51 emre...tbh, Hoylands goal gave me a semi 

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Reesh1867

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#42 24/07/2020 at 10:49

That would be silly
Andyben, 24/07/2020 at 10:43


Eric Taylor over saw our first stint in the 3rd tier and never won a major trophy, he's definitely to blame 

Consilio et Animis 

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tylluan

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#43 24/07/2020 at 10:54



Tommy,
The issue with comments like that are, NO player is prepared to play for a pittance anymore.
Look at the average pay leak that came out here a bit back - https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/huge-wage-ga p-in-efl-revealed-1-6630284

The average wage for the best-paid players at Championship clubs is a staggering £29,000 a week - with the league’s highest-earner pocketing £68,000 every seven days – while League One’s top players are paid an average of ‘just’ £4,753 a week

So playing for a pittance won't ever happen in the Football League, those days are LONG gone. There won't be many players now that stay at 'their' club because they love to be there, if there's any club looking at coming in and offering them a sizeable wage rise, they're off. The game has changed entirely.
It has fostered a number of players who are 'in it for the money' and who's fault is that?
HoylandOwl, 24/07/2020 at 10:46


This

Unfortunately

And this isn't just down to the owners. The fans crave the better players and they come with a price tag now.
The majority of our fanbase would have been happy if Fletcher, Hutchinson, and Forestieri had signed back on for the same money. But they would still have expected more. The moment we go shopping in League One then watch the idiots explode. To some fans if we're not spending 4 million on a player then he's not good enough. Sod the financial implications.  

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owl4ever1867

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#44 24/07/2020 at 10:56

Player power....

That has ruined our club (and many others) having players not playing to the best of their abilities because "they don't like the manager"  

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HoylandOwl

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#45 24/07/2020 at 11:06



This

Unfortunately

And this isn't just down to the owners. The fans crave the better players and they come with a price tag now.
The majority of our fanbase would have been happy if Fletcher, Hutchinson, and Forestieri had signed back on for the same money. But they would still have expected more. The moment we go shopping in League One then watch the idiots explode. To some fans if we're not spending 4 million on a player then he's not good enough. Sod the financial implications.
tylluan, 24/07/2020 at 10:54


Ty,

I'd have issue with that though too.
I present.... Adam Reach.
When he first came to the club, there was a significant amount of supporters who decided within 5 minutes he wasn't worth his salt.
We live in a generation of supporters, But I must stress not everyone, who crave, nay DEMAND, instant success.

I have no problem with fans craving better players. Without wanting the best for your club, although the though process behind it could differ, then it wouldn't matter almost who comes in.

The problem for me has been player power, no doubt, it's been the players/agents market. 'Fail' at a club, largely, they'll still go elsewhere on the same or more money. Earning from signing on fees, % of transfer fees, etc etc. It's not hard to see why players can be seduced by the money at all. But, I've said it before and it still holds true for me.

In YOUR job, whoever you are reading this, I'd argue the vast majority, if another organisation came for you and offered you 5x to do the same job. You'd leave.

We live in a WORLD driven by more, more, more. It's not just football, it's the way of the world.  

13.11.2010 at 20.51 emre...tbh, Hoylands goal gave me a semi 

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