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#1 07/05/2021 at 09:53

Gary Lineker, best known for hosting BBC’s Match of the Day and BT Sport’s UEFA Champions League coverage, is the latest high profile name to appeal HMRC’s IR35 ruling.

The total amount of income tax and national insurance contributions (NICs) under dispute is £3,621,735.90 and £1,307,160.46 respectively.

Lineker was given the go ahead by the first tier tribunal on 14 April to appeal the IR35 decision, after the case had been outstanding since 23 March 2020 due to administrative delays exacerbated by the coronavirus restrictions.

- Bet he shit his pants when that assessment hit the doormat  

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#2 07/05/2021 at 11:15

Another Champagne Socialist not paying his way. Wanker

Its now or never 

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#3 07/05/2021 at 12:50

Thought this was a "where are they now?" about Jeffers.... 

PARRY CAN GO F@#* HIMSELF!! 

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#4 07/05/2021 at 18:37

What is this IR35 thing.. What's it mean to us non bean counters.  

13.11.2010 at 20.51 emre...tbh, Hoylands goal gave me a semi 

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#5 07/05/2021 at 19:39

What is this IR35 thing.. What's it mean to us non bean counters.
HoylandOwl, 07/05/2021 at 18:37



As I remember it HO, it asks certain question of your relationship with the people who're actually paying you money in respect of are you an employee or, are you providing some sort of unique/special service whereas you are a company and you get loads off tax breaks and fiddles etc.. What happens for instance if you're off sick, does the service then stop or do they just backfill you with someone else in the organisation.
There are a few online questionnaires you can do but every time I did one I couldn't get myself over the line so after talking with the accountant I just didn't risk it and just paid my tax. I'm glad I did now, who wants to be looking over their shoulder waiting for them to descend. I was expecting a bigger witch hunt to be honest.
I'm sure we'll have some accountants along soon to give a better explanation. 

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#6 07/05/2021 at 20:25

I thought Lineker was an employee at the beeb. Hence how we know his salary.

Can't vouch for his BT work but that does look rather 'employeeish' as he goes where he's told and can't send a substitute. Not necessarily the only test to be taken but does look quite clear without knowing the full details.

If you want to know more about IR35 then ask for a quote. How do you think accountants earns a living without shit like this Cool

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#7 07/05/2021 at 20:56

As I am a nice accountant then IR35 was a tax announcement back in 1999.

HMRC tried to stop the situation where instead of being an employee you provided your services through a limited company. This enabled various tax advantages that they tried to circumvent with this legislation.

However it was widely erm ignored and indeed the likes of the BBC encouraged a lot of people to provide their services via a limited company.

So it gets cited as being tax avoidance but this was as much for the end user ie the BBC as the contractor.

So it appears Lineker was paid for his work at both the BBC and BT that way.

HMRC have been trawling for a few years, so the likes of Christa Ackroyd from Look North got hit, so as Eamoln Holmes, though Lorraine Kelly won.

So if the relationship between person and end user is basically that of an employee, the tax rules say the fees earned should have been deemed salary within Lineker's company.

Undoubtedly he would have saved tax by paying out dividends, but I also suspect given his earnings he just kept a lot within the company or invested it.

I suspect a few more high profile presenters will be hit.

The nub here is that just about every IT consultant was doing this, as were a lot of others. Many were encouraged possibly forced to get work this way.

Rules have recently changed to shift the risk onto the end user not the contractors Ltd Co - guess what all generally now employees.

Happy clapping for 4 years more than Emre 

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#8 07/05/2021 at 21:05

It's also in the news now as it also now applies to public sector authorities as well as large companies.

You'd let Lorraine Kelly off just to shut her up at the hearing.  

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#9 07/05/2021 at 21:13

It's also in the news now as it also now applies to public sector authorities as well as large companies.

You'd let Lorraine Kelly off just to shut her up at the hearing.
Skamp, 07/05/2021 at 21:05


I only ever had a few clients but there was an entire industry that marketed solutions for contractors. At its worst an IT contractor would leave employment on a Friday and be back on a Monday doing the same role via a limited company.

At the other, I had clients that were borderline to start with but then developed real businesses because it offered them freedom not always permitted under an employment contract.

However other cases, was one last week or so about a radio presenter that was guaranteed 160 shows a year. You are an employee really. Lineker was on MOTD every week  

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#10 08/05/2021 at 12:02


You'd let Lorraine Kelly off just to shut her up at the hearing.
Skamp, 07/05/2021 at 21:05

I'd that Lorraine Kelly you're talking about or the actress playing Lorraine Kelly? Wink
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