2023/24 Wednesday transfer thread...

[Andyben]

If he were good he'd have left us...

[HoylandOwl]

Or if he wasn’t on £5000000000 per week like every fan of any other league 1 club last season would have people believe. 

[Andyben]

Palmer?

[Owling_Wolf]

1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said:

Or if he wasn’t on £5000000000 per week like every fan of any other league 1 club last season would have people believe. 

And their managers!   🙄

[HoylandOwl]

I'm shuddering at the thought of this.. But.... I'll do it.

Lyle Taylor. 

It COULD happen if the rumours are true. Heard it last week, and heard it again today. 

NO. 

[Tylluan]

Supposedly on his way back to Birmingham where he scored 5 in 14 on loan. 

Taylor still doesn't suit our current style of play, so what's the point. I'd rather stick Wickham on an incentivised 'prove yourself' contract til the end of January. At least he's physical enough to hold the ball up on his own. It'd be a shop window for him as well to get a longer deal with us or someone else. 

[HoylandOwl]

9 hours ago, Tylluan said:

Supposedly on his way back to Birmingham where he scored 5 in 14 on loan. 

Taylor still doesn't suit our current style of play, so what's the point. I'd rather stick Wickham on an incentivised 'prove yourself' contract til the end of January. At least he's physical enough to hold the ball up on his own. It'd be a shop window for him as well to get a longer deal with us or someone else. 

Let Taylor go back to Brum…

[Reesh]

And he's fucking tainted, Bartos would love him the pig adoring fucker.

[Southy_SWFC]

[Reesh]

Edited September 19, 2023 by Reesh

[HoylandOwl]

Apparently Xisco has said post game that he is training with us, and he is looking at what he has to offer us.

[tomcore]

Just imagine... It could be Taylor-Fletcher up front again.

[HoylandOwl]

And likely as potent

[HoylandOwl]

Ben Heneghan has signed a permanent deal at Fleetwood Town.

Good luck to the lad. He deserves some!

[Reesh]

They've replaced Scott Brown with Lee Johnson, their owners must love odious little *****.

[Andyben]

39 minutes ago, Reesh said:

They've replaced Scott Brown with Lee Johnson, their owners must love odious little *****.

Do they need a half time DJ?

[Andyben]

Did you miss the word Little....

[Owling_Wolf]

4 hours ago, Reesh said:

They've replaced Scott Brown with Lee Johnson, their owners must love odious little *****.

The last one most certainly was!

[Andyben]

😂😂

[Winco]

3 hours ago, Andyben said:

Do they need a half time DJ?

 

2 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

I know you like music but didn’t know you DJ’d, you’d be perfect for the role

It was funny that bartos😂

[TheExile]

Taylor was useless at United so never built up a dislike of him. If anything it was amusing that he proved to be decent a few years later. Not sure where he’s at now but does tend to at least get a few goals. As others have said he seems similar to what we have if he’s lost a bit of the speed he used to have but id bet he would’ve got on the end of one of the Fletcher chances the other night. It does seem a bit, see what we can get and see what sticks though.

[Reesh]

9 minutes ago, TheExile said:

Taylor was useless at United so never built up a dislike of him. If anything it was amusing that he proved to be decent a few years later. Not sure where he’s at now but does tend to at least get a few goals. As others have said he seems similar to what we have if he’s lost a bit of the speed he used to have but id bet he would’ve got on the end of one of the Fletcher chances the other night. It does seem a bit, see what we can get and see what sticks though.

Another closet pig

[HoylandOwl]

4 hours ago, TheExile said:

Taylor was useless at United so never built up a dislike of him. If anything it was amusing that he proved to be decent a few years later. Not sure where he’s at now but does tend to at least get a few goals. As others have said he seems similar to what we have if he’s lost a bit of the speed he used to have but id bet he would’ve got on the end of one of the Fletcher chances the other night. It does seem a bit, see what we can get and see what sticks though.

Going back to his Wimbledon stint, in non league / league 2, he was sharp, a proper goalscorer and one of those who just felt like he could either score, or set someone up in every game. And I wasn't surprised when he went to Charlton. 

And this is no disrespect to him now, because if we sign him and he's in our shirt then I hope he does well of course, but I just don't see him being the answer. We're heading towards the third month of the season and no other club has snapped him up. There are SOMETIMES rough diamonds out there that get missed, but he's 33, and us going for him probably says more about where we're at in terms of our squad than the player himself.

[TheExile]

8 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

Going back to his Wimbledon stint, in non league / league 2, he was sharp, a proper goalscorer and one of those who just felt like he could either score, or set someone up in every game. And I wasn't surprised when he went to Charlton. 

And this is no disrespect to him now, because if we sign him and he's in our shirt then I hope he does well of course, but I just don't see him being the answer. We're heading towards the third month of the season and no other club has snapped him up. There are SOMETIMES rough diamonds out there that get missed, but he's 33, and us going for him probably says more about where we're at in terms of our squad than the player himself.

Fair points. I think our transfer strategy in that regard ie strikers has tended to gravitate toward a name or reputation (Winnall excepted) rather than a younger player and we need a bit of a succession plan up front. However, if we are now in a short term fight and he adds anything t it may be worth it. Has experience of what’s going on here at Birmingham previously and was reasonably popular there from what I can tell. 

[KrolMong]

I cannot believe that at no point during this window did we not think that we needed a striker. I know the two wide men can potentially do a job there, and Windass can too, but, to exit the window with Gregory, Smith and Fletcher as our out and out Strikers is just not very good.

 

[Otto_Man]

I'm not sure that we thought we didn't need one, hence the signing of Fletcher. In fairness if we're only playing one up, 3 is probably perceived to be enough?!

[HoylandOwl]

2 hours ago, Otto_Man said:

I'm not sure that we thought we didn't need one, hence the signing of Fletcher. In fairness if we're only playing one up, 3 is probably perceived to be enough?!

With the lack of chances we create, I forgot we played with a striker. 

[KrolMong]

The lack of striker is part of the problem. They’ve all been physically dominated easily at times this season which means because it doesn’t stick, it comes back.

[Andyben]

...because only Gregory  can make it stick and he's playing as a winger it whatever it is he's meant to be doing.

So play with wingers and Smith plus Windass / Gregory and we'll score more goals

Edited September 23, 2023 by Andyben

[TheExile]

My bet is that we did want a striker but couldn’t it wouldn’t match what others were offering for one. 

[Reesh]

1 hour ago, TheExile said:

My bet is that we did want a striker but couldn’t it wouldn’t match what others were offering for one. 

We wanted the lad who scored against us today but he preferred a return to Swansea 

[TheExile]

2 minutes ago, Reesh said:

We wanted the lad who scored against us today but he preferred a return to Swansea 

True yes forgot about him. He’d have at least given us something different 

[Owling_Wolf]

4 hours ago, Andyben said:

...because only Gregory  can make it stick and he's playing as a winger it whatever it is he's meant to be doing.

So play with wingers and Smith plus Windass / Gregory and we'll score more goals

He was the sole striker from kickoff today I believe. 

[HoylandOwl]

And the only player to get a shot on target for us.

[Owling_Wolf]

1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said:

And the only player to get a shot on target for us.

Not technically correct, Tee, though I'm not surprised they missed it.   In that bit of pressure and half chances  that saw several of the old guard brought on, an effort was blocked in or around their 6 yard box. It fell to Pato who hit it on target but it was immediately blocked & flew just over, right in front of us. 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Owling_Wolf

[Andyben]

So out of everyone available now could Connor Wickham improve us if a new manager came in, or is there enough in the squad to get to 19th place come April /May?

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

Just now, Andyben said:

So out of everyone available now could Connor Wickham improve us if a new manager came in, or is there enough in the squad to get to 19th place come April /May?

They are being badly coached, but I genuinely fail to see there is enough ability in the squad to achieve that. The spell 5 minutes after HT was potentially one of the most shambolic spells I have ever witnessed. 

[Andyben]

I disagree.

I well drilled squad with everyone knowing their role, with some pashun and leadership is often good enough for a top half finish or punt at play offs.

Demlot got to Prem with third division players, it's achievable 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

1 minute ago, Andyben said:

I disagree.

I well drilled squad with everyone knowing their role, with some pashun and leadership is often good enough for a top half finish or punt at play offs.

Demlot got to Prem with third division players, it's achievable 

I will accept that the confidence is shot to pieces so the judgement is hard to make. 

I will accept that playing out from the back exacerbates the mistake making.

But their basic skills seem lacking and fitness levels are not on a par with the division.

I have real doubts a new manager could change it enough. 

[HoylandOwl]

29 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Not technically correct, Tee, though I'm not surprised they missed it.   In that bit of pressure and half chances  that saw several of the old guard brought on, an effort was blocked in or around their 6 yard box. It fell to Pato who hit it on target but it was immediately blocked & flew just over, right in front of us. 

It would count on the stats as a blocked shot wouldn't it? 

[Owling_Wolf]

2 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

It would count on the stats as a blocked shot wouldn't it? 

Wrongly, you mean?   

😁

[HoylandOwl]

9 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Wrongly, you mean?   

😁

I don’t write the rules my friend. 😄

[Owling_Wolf]

3 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

I don’t write the rules my friend. 😄

That's obviously part of the problem. 😋

[KrolMong]

15 hours ago, Andyben said:

I disagree.

I well drilled squad with everyone knowing their role, with some pashun and leadership is often good enough for a top half finish or punt at play offs.

Demlot got to Prem with third division players, it's achievable 

We lack leaders throughout the team.

The only two in that squad would be Ihiekwe and Vaulks, and in the case of Vaulks, you are weakening the team.

I have been surprised by the physicality of the league and also think we are lacking in players with brute power, and we still have no legs both in terms of fitness and athleticism. You can see that in how easily teams get the ball off us, break and then create overloads.

But, I do 100% agree that a decent coach can make us hard to play against and tighten us up.

What you need is a strong spine. A decent keeper, two decent centre halves, two decent midfield players and a decent striker. We MAY have a decent keeper, we may have two decent centre halves, I think we still have an issue in the center of midfield and a we are desperately missing a championship quality striker.

[Ozzie]

Bemused why Byers gets dropped for Hendrick

[Andyben]

Different types of players?

[HoylandOwl]

Lyle Taylor not training with us anymore.

Thank foooook

[Otto_Man]

24 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Lyle Taylor not training with us anymore.

Thank foooook

Even he doesn't want Warnock

[Mark]

@Tylluan

You need to get your contacts at Wednesday onto a lad at Stockport. Louie Barry. Only on loan there from Villa, this lad is going places. I reckon Villa will loan him out to maybe a championship club.

Only 20 but lookslike he's got the lot. Like a quick Fernando 

[Reesh]

24 minutes ago, Mark said:

@Tylluan

You need to get your contacts at Wednesday onto a lad at Stockport. Louie Barry. Only on loan there from Villa, this lad is going places. I reckon Villa will loan him out to maybe a championship club.

Only 20 but lookslike he's got the lot. Like a quick Fernando 

Ha ha you only just heard about him? Been around a while, struggled at any level above where he is now.