Andyben Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Tylluan said: Could do but he'd be a more dynamic 10 than a playmaker 10. Put a playmaker in next to him and there's the top of your box ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 US journos reporting Blackburn have offered better payment structure than us so they will pick McGuire up. Suspect things change quickly with these things but seems like more frustration. Would take Collins though as he looked championship quality last season and may just need a new lease of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said: Could Gassama play No10? Currently too greedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, Andyben said: He showed just that against Cov, when dropping into midfield and carrying the ball 40m at a time, Wonderful player Needs to learn when to pass though. Wonderful raw material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 23 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Currently too greedy. As opposed to Windass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tewksbury said: As opposed to Windass? Yes. He can be too but it's one of the reasons he's got his goals in the past. Early, accurate shots. So far the kid generally hasn't got that yet. Tends to snatch at them, sometimes when he's got teammates ready for a tap-in. I think he'll be a top player. I just hope some of it will be for us. For now it's good to have the excitement! Edited January 30 by Owling_Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Owling_Wolf said: Yes. He can be too but it's one of the reasons he's got his goals in the past. Early, accurate shots. So far the kid generally hasn't got that yet. Tends to snatch at them, sometimes when he's got teammates ready for a tap-in. I think he'll be a top player. I just hope some of it will be for us. Neither does Windass this season. He's wasted the most shots this season, as well as taking a few where an easy layoff was available. DG has 2 good goals and seems to be getting more confident every game, he's going to start ripping teams up soon and offers us something that could surprise better teams, whereas Windass is a bit of a flat track bully, only really performs when we're already on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Barnsley intrested in Byers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 28 minutes ago, Tewksbury said: Neither does Windass this season. He's wasted the most shots this season, as well as taking a few where an easy layoff was available. DG has 2 good goals and seems to be getting more confident every game, he's going to start ripping teams up soon and offers us something that could surprise better teams, whereas Windass is a bit of a flat track bully, only really performs when we're already on top. As I said re. Windass, in the past. Until DR came, it was an uphill battle for Windass when he played: a terrible team and awful tactics & positions. From what I remember JD virtually didn't play. Hopefully JD will learn the 'when and when nots' with us and rapidly. We've apparently got good coaches. He needs to be the difference for us right now: we haven't any time to spare. There's a reason why opponents have started to kick the shit out of him. (Southampton were shocking!) DR also needs to figure out what's gone wrong with Musaba recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Who's JD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: DR also needs to figure out what's gone wrong with Musaba recently. The Bannan/Windass/Johnson left midfield triangle is what's wrong with Musaba, with a bit of Palmer thrown in. Get them together and they only pass ro each other, unless it's a floater into the box. Gassama has been making his own luck, but Musaba (and Valentin) has been in loads of space numerous times and has been ignored in favour of squeezing a ball to one of the other amigos. He's only fell off since those three were reunited. Musaba is built for running, but gets the ball in tight spots constantly, so has Gassama, when they should be played in with the ball in front. Musaba has 4 goals and 2 assists, so his decision making can't be that bad, also has the best Goals to xG and assists to xA, showing he's taking the opportunities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) Musaba was a major part of our excellent December. Since then - and I readilly accept the better quality opponents - he's another one that runs far with the ball but refuses to pass: probably even more than JD. Btw, Johnson has been superb since his return, including in a rôle that doesn't suit him at times. Edited January 30 by Owling_Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Who's JD. Difference is Musaba is now playing wide, Gassama central. Was other way round earlier in season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Andyben said: Who's JD. Difference is Musaba is now playing wide, Gassama central. Was other way round earlier in season I think it’s a shortened form of how Gassama’s first name is pronounced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 42 minutes ago, Supercockle said: I think it’s a shortened form of how Gassama’s first name is pronounced. JeyDi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 43 minutes ago, Andyben said: JeyDi? That’s what I’m guessing. I should let Owling answer for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Nicholas Mickelson, right back from Odense. Apparently Att has followed him on Insta, might be bollocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Chelters said: Nicholas Mickelson, right back from Odense. Apparently Att has followed him on Insta, might be bollocks. He plays for the Thai national team, may just be that. Has played for Pederson before though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Supercockle said: That’s what I’m guessing. I should let Owling answer for himself. Its not his turn on the computer in the residents lounge again till Thursday... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 He's 24 and only played 8 times for Thailand. He took Thai citizenship so he's dual nationality but the fact he's not playing for a European nation may mean work permit issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 28/01/2024 at 12:12, KrolMong said: I’ve heard off a reliable source that there is a flurry of business in the next 48 hours. Out and In. Do we know what 48 hours constitutes? Is it the same as Les' two weeks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, Andyben said: JeyDi? Hope he returns to form 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 16 hours ago, Reesh said: What facts do I need to prove you're docile, people can see your posts....proof enough. Read the definition of docile, you’ll find it contradicts your point of view and my posts. Not good for grammar and written word narcissist pedant like yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southy_SWFC Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Crann the man says we're still really after McGuire from Orlando. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: Read the definition of docile, you’ll find it contradicts your point of view and my posts. Not good for grammar and written word narcissist pedant like yourself. Well done, here's another crayon for you to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Do you believe we will actually end up signing anyone else/selling or loaning anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Whilst we do need hopefully to switch up things, the criticism levelled so far is strange. I had a quick skim down the BBC list of transfers and there is frankly sod all happening elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Things will all be locked in brinksmanship until later today or early tomorrow, happens every window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 18 minutes ago, TheExile said: Things will all be locked in brinksmanship until later today or early tomorrow, happens every window And it's like dominoes falling, when one club completes a deal it usually triggers further movements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 40 minutes ago, Reesh said: And it's like dominoes falling, when one club completes a deal it usually triggers further movements. Yep a few happened yesterday so hopefully knock ons take place now. Doesn’t stop a lot of people jumping to conclusions on social media though just need to see where we are Friday AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor-Jackie Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, TheExile said: Yep a few happened yesterday so hopefully knock ons take place now. Doesn’t stop a lot of people jumping to conclusions on social media though just need to see where we are Friday AM. Hopefully three points better off than today! 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Derby intrested in signing Lee Gregory on loan till the end if the season if they fail to land Smith. Stumbling block is apparently they can't afford Gregory's wages.... Surely that would be the same with Smith?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said: Derby intrested in signing Lee Gregory on loan till the end if the season if they fail to land Smith. Stumbling block is apparently they can't afford Gregory's wages.... Surely that would be the same with Smith?! Probably why they’ve moved on to Gregory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 maybe they should call him 'player/coach' and do the Rooney fiddle agin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 It’s always a bad market to buy in, in Jan. It’s what I would call a desperation window. Either to stop up or challenge to go up. Those clubs who generally won’t go up or down won’t touch the window apart from maybe getting people out. Sadly we are in that desperate state where we need signings to have any chance of staying up - which inflates the player value in terms of loans and perms. There’s always an influx of late deals today and tomorrow because generally the buying club accepts the inflated deal and goes ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) McGuire medical at Blackburn Edited January 31 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, Reesh said: Blackburn set for a medical with McGuire I hope he finds their injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 58 minutes ago, Reesh said: McGuire medical at Blackburn Disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 29 minutes ago, Supercockle said: Disappointing. It's where we are unfortunately. They are mid table and just sold a player for £16m. We are second bottom and recouped a bag full of gobstoppers in last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Let’s see if Rohl and DC have got plans B, C and D to fall back on. I expect that we’ll try have to exploit the loan market at this late stage of the window. I know we have a list of targets but don’t know how far those other discussions have got. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 19 minutes ago, Snap said: All eyes on the directors box tonight is it? Everyone on Scott Hogan watch? Think I'd rather save the money for the end of the season than to gamble it, we still have a great chance with what we have. Last thing we need is another Jeff farking Hendrick. No I'll be watching the pitch. And going down is likely to cost us much more money than this window will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 39 minutes ago, Reesh said: No I'll be watching the pitch. And going down is likely to cost us much more money than this window will. Just over 10 million will be wiped out just through TV and solidarity payments, and that’s before we look at the attendance hit. Relegation will be catastrophic this season, the wage bill will need to come down, I don’t see Rohl and his staff staying and we’d need a monstrous rebuild in the summer based on the number of out of contract players we have. The cumulative effect of 2 years out of the last three in the Championship will have a massive effect on our budget because of those lower revenues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 But to counter that. If we stay up, and we continue to be cautious with spend and build over two years, we will be very rosy off the pitch. Our wage bill as it stands now is peanuts compared to the rest of the division, and DC has clearly been diligent in keeping that down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, KrolMong said: But to counter that. If we stay up, and we continue to be cautious with spend and build over two years, we will be very rosy off the pitch. Our wage bill as it stands now is peanuts compared to the rest of the division, and DC has clearly been diligent in keeping that down. It will be peanuts, once those contracts run down at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 @holmesfield_owlits already the third lowest and half of what Boro pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said: And then we'll have to pay again. Don't stay or move up this league paying peanuts unless you get very lucky. But at least we'll be paying Championship players Championship wages, instead of what we have now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 ...so anything from 4th for I'm bottom or above is out performing what's expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Tewksbury said: But at least we'll be paying Championship players Championship wages, instead of what we have now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Moneyball philosophy, and the reality is there would not be much deviation between the wage league table and the league table. There will of course be outliers. So a good system of player recruitment, or a good manager will mean you can over achieve. A bang average manager or long term injuries can lead to undershooting that eg Moore last season probably had the top budget, perhaps Ipswich beat that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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