Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, lobster said: According to " stalk " it was because we could not agree a sell on fee percentage . West Ham wanted 50% Sweet deal for WHU....... IF true. Glad we didn't entertain it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Makes no sense at all that deal, so obviously some mouth breather making shit up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 34 minutes ago, Andyben said: Makes no sense at all that deal, so obviously some mouth breather making shit up I think the deal is reported as Undisclosed Fee on BBC so not the free transfer mentioned earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 20 hours ago, lobster said: According to " stalk " it was because we could not agree a sell on fee percentage . West Ham wanted 50% Absolute horse dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Same initials as a failed manager though, it would have been doomed. Never worry about a player that never joins Never worry about a player that leaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, mkowl said: Same initials as a failed manager though, it would have been doomed. Never worry about a player that never joins Never worry about a player that leaves Carry Conk? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Alan Nixon is suggesting that talks between us and Derby have taken place in relation to Michael Smith going there way. But wages are the stumbling block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Michael Smith going there way. But wages are the stumbling block. You took that job at the Star then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 27 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Alan Nixon is suggesting that talks between us and Derby have taken place in relation to Michael Smith going there way. But wages are the stumbling block. And not his ability to hit a barn door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just the 24 goals for us in Div 3 last season under Darren Mogadon not good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 29 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Alan Nixon is suggesting that talks between us and Derby have taken place in relation to Michael Smith going there way. But wages are the stumbling block. He can go for me, need better if you we want to be challenging in the Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I'd usually like to have some better before they can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 hours ago, Andyben said: Just the 24 goals for us in Div 3 last season under Darren Mogadon not good enough? I mean he only came to us for the money. Why else would you leave a team promoted to the Championship for one in League 1. Its certainly not ambition or testing yourself. Though he has looked well below Championship standard. Sadly our signing of him was totally indicative of the short termism approach to recruitment. The money would have been better directed on someone younger and likely to make an impact higher up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Smith did a job for us last season. He helped us to promotion. Our current style of play, and his, don’t match. I’d let him go, allow him to play somewhere else and continue his career with a big thanks for what you did. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, mkowl said: I mean he only came to us for the money. Why else would you leave a team promoted to the Championship for one in League 1. Its certainly not ambition or testing yourself. Though he has looked well below Championship standard. Sadly our signing of him was totally indicative of the short termism approach to recruitment. The money would have been better directed on someone younger and likely to make an impact higher up. So he dropped a division to us for the money, but he's dropping a division to Derby because he's not championship standard? OK... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Smith did a job for us last season. He helped us to promotion. Our current style of play, and his, don’t match. I’d let him go, allow him to play somewhere else and continue his career with a big thanks for what you did. Our style of play last season didn't suit him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, Andyben said: So he dropped a division to us for the money, but he's dropping a division to Derby because he's not championship standard? OK... And he will probably get the same wages either way. I don't particularly have an issue with Smith, it's more it smacked of the short termism that pervaded the Club. Great, get out of League 1 then scratch out arse and hope for the best in the Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) There was an absolute necessity to get out of Div 3 last season. We could have gone under if we hadn't. Short termisn works as ultimately its given us Röhl Edited January 16 by Andyben 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Smith has his limitations but he’s still scored a similar amount to anyone else this season without even really playing. Hull also wanted to sign him when we did. I think all teams need that option of a forward for certain games. I like him as a player but I can understand why we might move him on if he’s expensive and not playing. It would just be better if we still had the option of using him again if we went down. Perfect for the spine of the team in L1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, TheExile said: Smith has his limitations but he’s still scored a similar amount to anyone else this season without even really playing. Hull also wanted to sign him when we did. I think all teams need that option of a forward for certain games. I like him as a player but I can understand why we might move him on if he’s expensive and not playing. It would just be better if we still had the option of using him again if we went down. Perfect for the spine of the team in L1 I’d prefer for us to plan for staying in Championship than keep him in case we go down. Getting his wages off the books gives Rohl more options. If we kept him and went down, I still don’t think Rohl would use him. We didn’t play a style that suited him last season (not in the way that Rotherham did); this season even less so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 39 minutes ago, Supercockle said: I’d prefer for us to plan for staying in Championship than keep him in case we go down. Getting his wages off the books gives Rohl more options. If we kept him and went down, I still don’t think Rohl would use him. We didn’t play a style that suited him last season (not in the way that Rotherham did); this season even less so. True. If a loan freed up wages for another loan that might work and I agree we need to try and stop up. But there’s a lot of uncertainty if we do go down. Would that coaching team stay? The only person obliged to would be a proven striker still under contract. We’d need experienced spine to help some promising younger players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, TheExile said: True. If a loan freed up wages for another loan that might work and I agree we need to try and stop up. But there’s a lot of uncertainty if we do go down. Would that coaching team stay? The only person obliged to would be a proven striker still under contract. We’d need experienced spine to help some promising younger players. Do you want the towel back that you've just chucked in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reesh said: Do you want the towel back that you've just chucked in? We can stay up and I’d like to think we will. But a lack of considering what might come next has been an issue at the club for a while. We could play well for the rest of the season and still need a result at Sunderland thanks to Xisco. 20 goal a season strikers are hard to find at any level so hedging our bets is the best strategy and if/when we stay up then move players like that on. Edited January 16 by TheExile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Dan Gore available to loan from Man U. Would be an upgrade on Coventry and wouldn't cost a slot in the 25 man squad list. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 18 hours ago, TheExile said: We can stay up and I’d like to think we will. But a lack of considering what might come next has been an issue at the club for a while. We could play well for the rest of the season and still need a result at Sunderland thanks to Xisco. 20 goal a season strikers are hard to find at any level so hedging our bets is the best strategy and if/when we stay up then move players like that on. Not thinking about what might come next isn’t something that I think DR will suffer from, like DM clearly did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Although… Alan Nixon says that Scott Hogan is one of three strikers we’re considering signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Although… Alan Nixon says that Scott Hogan is one of three strikers we’re considering signing. Probably end up getting Hulk Hogan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Alex Miller reporting interest in 20-year-old Arsenal forward Mika Biereth https://t.co/gVuiYD2c7k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Been quite impressed with him during his time with Motherwell. Seems to have something about him and knows where the goals are. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, Andyben said: Dan Gore available to loan from Man U. Would be an upgrade on Coventry and wouldn't cost a slot in the 25 man squad list. He's been in there match day squad a few times and been on twice. We'd have to sign him as an u21 loan for him not to be counted in our 25. It's been done before but it's dodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 He's available, same as Hannibal who went to INEOS's other team Sevilla. Looks like to L1 but he'd be wasted there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Tylluan said: He's been in there match day squad a few times and been on twice. We'd have to sign him as an u21 loan for him not to be counted in our 25. It's been done before but it's dodgy Hughill would have been good too, but if Gore goes to L1 then I'd start talks with Man U about taking both for a full season in July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 11 hours ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Alex Miller reporting interest in 20-year-old Arsenal forward Mika Biereth https://t.co/gVuiYD2c7k This guy rates him… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Ipswich want Neymarv apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, Reesh said: Ipswich want Neymarv apparently Did Wes Burns write in with an offer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Strange one for Ipswich, unless they have injuries down the left. If this is part of shuffling our pack no issue with it. It only becomes as issue if no replacement comes in as we are pretty light in that position as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 26 minutes ago, mkowl said: Strange one for Ipswich, unless they have injuries down the left. If this is part of shuffling our pack no issue with it. It only becomes as issue if no replacement comes in as we are pretty light in that position as it is Getting rid of arguably the best player form wise in the last 6 weeks is a stupid move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, Bob Petrie said: The Beadle influence kicking in I hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Vasquez RAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 A suggestion on FB that 1m bid from Ipswich has been rejection for MJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Beat me to it. Playing well but anything north of that I'd snatch their hands off and reinvest in a youger left sided player. Edited January 18 by Teddy Nickelarse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 out now with Vasquez. Get the Arsenal youngster in and the window is starting to shape up positively with 2 weeks still to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If we an get £1m for a 33 yo I'd snap their hand off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 https://twitter.com/alex_crook Ipswich might pay ostensibly over the odds if it helps them get promoted. If this bloke is right we are baulking because DR sees him as a key player in our survival fight. If we get a suggested (in some quarters) £1.3m and invest well in a younger version then possibly win/win for both clubs. Would be one in the eye for those that panned DC (including local media) for declining Derby's free transfer attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, Andyben said: If we an get £1m for a 33 yo I'd snap their hand off My first thoughts too. Rumoured that Ipswich are still keen though and talks ongoing. The arbiter would surely be whether we can use the money to get a younger left sided replacement of required quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Surely if there was a younger, better version of Neymarv available for c£1.3m Ipswich would be buying him? The only reason to sell is that we have a player we think can come in and perform better or Johnson doesn't suit how we want to play and we can use the money to strengthen another area. I'd have their hand off for £1.3m, but can't imagine we've been offered anything like that, probably an extremely zero somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 49 minutes ago, Snap said: Beadell even. Beadle is the goalie. Reesh's age is getting to him. Thinks our Keeper is doing our recruitment. Saying that it would be a step up from the Chairmans Son. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Reesh's age is getting to him. Thinks our Keeper is doing our recruitment. Saying that it would be a step up from the Chairmans Son. The Chairman's son who you follow on social media? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: https://twitter.com/alex_crook Ipswich might pay ostensibly over the odds if it helps them get promoted. If this bloke is right we are baulking because DR sees him as a key player in our survival fight. If we get a suggested (in some quarters) £1.3m and invest well in a younger version then possibly win/win for both clubs. Would be one in the eye for those that panned DC (including local media) for declining Derby's free transfer attempt. Do you know what ostensibly means? It's an odd fit here. Edited January 18 by Skamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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