Andyben Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) So back on track. The scenario becomes real today, unlikely the new lads will get involved at Leeds so break ahead, what you doing in the free agent market and in the two weeks before the flying tractors land at Hillsborough … Everyone is fit and there's £30k pw in the wage pot for free transfers Edited September 2, 2023 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 On 02/09/2023 at 10:18, Andyben said: So back on track. The scenario becomes real today, unlikely the new lads will get involved at Leeds so break ahead, what you doing in the free agent market and in the two weeks before the flying tractors land at Hillsborough … Everyone is fit and there's £30k pw in the wage pot for free transfers Haven't we got too many players in our squad already? (To officially declare or whatever.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Perhaps the two wingers have been fiddled into youth contracts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Haven't we got too many players in our squad already? (To officially declare or whatever.) Players under the age of 21 don't count towards the 25 as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 ... @Tylluanmentioned Dean Smith. Anyone else? Carlos perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 I think just anyone right now AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Carlos would create a real buzz. There's a decent 14/15 in the squad that a manager could really get some results from Devis, Bernard, Ihiekwe, Iorfa, Famewo, Hendrick, M.Diaby, Buckley, Byers, Windass, Delgado, Pol.V, Gregory and Smith. Fletcher has something but his confidence is shot. The two young wingers could become very important. There's young lads in the 21's who may be pushing soon. The ingredients are all there, just needs a decent chef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Andyben said: ... @Tylluanmentioned Dean Smith. Anyone else? Carlos perhaps? You can go off people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: You can go off people Pretty sure you've never liked Carlos bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Just now, Otto_Man said: Pretty sure you've never liked Carlos bud I was meaning Andy for suggesting it. Tbf Xisco will be the one that isn't here end of September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 On 03/09/2023 at 14:21, Andyben said: Perhaps the two wingers have been fiddled into youth contracts? They have 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Andyben said: Carlos would create a real buzz. There's a decent 14/15 in the squad that a manager could really get some results from The two young wingers could become very important. There's young lads in the 21's who may be pushing soon. Problem is Carlos wouldn't play them. Didn't when he was here and didn't really go for youth when he went back to Portugal, which is a bit strange seeing as he was coaching Saudi kids when we picked him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Bruce (i know), or Smith for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Canterburyowl said: Bruce (i know), or Smith for me Was Smith on the list in the summer ? If so and he was not chosen, why do we think a) Chansiri would now pick him or b) having been rejected Smith would think yep I will go there I suppose if you are unemployed and you get offered a route to earn £1m a year then perhaps any principles are easier to displace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 As far as I'm aware Smith wasn't on the list, but then I don't think Munoz was on the original list either. The bringing in of Munoz and the influx of unproven/unheard of foreign players smacks of someone whispering in Chansiri's ear again. I doubt any of these players were sourced by Dean Hughes and his team. I reckon Munoz will have until the next international break to turn it around. That means 5 games. If we're still adrift after Huddersfield then Chansiri has to pull the trigger, but it'll be costly as Munoz brought a full back room with him. But he can start saving himself by not playing one up top. We don't have any forwards who can play that role and no amount of coaching will change that. Revert back to 4-4-2 with fullbacks being fullbacks (none of this up and down bollocks), two solid central midfielders to control the middle and release the kids down the wings. Windass and either Smith or Gregory up top being fed by the pace of the wingers. Middlesbrough are where they are because teams have sussed Carrick out and gone at them this season. We go 5-4-1 and long ball again and it'll invite them forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, Tylluan said: Revert back to 4-4-2 with fullbacks being fullbacks (none of this up and down bollocks), two solid central midfielders to control the middle and release the kids down the wings. Windass and either Smith or Gregory up top being fed by the pace of the wingers. I think I just did a sex wee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 ...but @Tylluanwho's your midfield two and Right Back? Hendrick and Buckley, with Pol.V/Delgado (if you want a specialist) or Iorfa / Bernard (if you want a defender) Palmers done for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andyben Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 My new best friend @BanTheStar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Like any manager with half a brain is going to want to work with the simpleton who owns us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 If I’m going 4-4-2, then my team is simple. Vasquez Valentin, Bernard, Diaby, Famewo Buckley, Byers, Hendrick, Bannan Gassama, Gregory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Like any manager with half a brain is going to want to work with the simpleton who owns us They'll work if there's a decent enough wage behind it and money to spend. Chansiri might seem like a basket case on some fronts but he's always put his hand in his pocket when FFP has allowed him to do so. He's not personally picked the players to come in, those around him have done that. As has already been said, there's a nucleus of players within the club that could get us out of this position if they're played where they should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 4-4-2 (depending on the opposition) Valentin/Paterson Diaby Bernard Famewo/James. Musaba Buckley Hendrick/Byers Gassama Windass Smith/Gregory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, KrolMong said: If I’m going 4-4-2, then my team is simple. Vasquez Valentin, Bernard, Diaby, Famewo Buckley, Byers, Hendrick, Bannan Gassama, Gregory Valentin and Gassama who haven't played? Why them now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 point Fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: 2 supposedly respected posters including Gassama in their starting XI. You’ve not watched him have you, well off it at the minute He's not played, has he, only a few minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The issue is that without the pace of Gassana or Musaba, we are sitting ducks. Our front line is nowhere near championship quality, without any pace, teams are squeezing us. Ipswich at times had all players in our half. The big thought is Windass, do we need an old fashioned number 9, or do we stick him down the middle with Gassama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, KrolMong said: The issue is that without the pace of Gassana or Musaba, we are sitting ducks. Our front line is nowhere near championship quality, without any pace, teams are squeezing us. Ipswich at times had all players in our half. The big thought is Windass, do we need an old fashioned number 9, or do we stick him down the middle with Gassama? They had the goalkeeper in our half? Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: 2 supposedly respected posters including Gassama in their starting XI. You’ve not watched him have you, well off it at the minute Calling the posters "supposedly respected" is beneath you, take a break from the site to sort yourself out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Reesh said: They had the goalkeeper in our half? Impressive. I clearly missed the word ‘outfield’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I’ve said 10 games. Am 4 off that mark and 5 away from international break. We pull off victories Tuesday and Saturday and Munoz pickup 3 points from the following 3 then I’ll not be calling for his head. But we lose these next two .. then Chansiri needs to be sounding out Nathan Jones and Dean Smith with enticing offers! We can’t wait till November if we go into the second international break with less than 9 points on the board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, EBRA said: I’ve said 10 games. Am 4 off that mark and 5 away from international break. We pull off victories Tuesday and Saturday and Munoz pickup 3 points from the following 3 then I’ll not be calling for his head. But we lose these next two .. then Chansiri needs to be sounding out Nathan Jones and Dean Smith with enticing offers! We can’t wait till November if we go into the second international break with less than 9 points on the board! Nathan Jones? Fuck off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Reesh said: Nathan Jones? Fuck off I hear you so - let’s see if this works - available (out of work) coaches e since PPG Last club Tite 62 years Dec 31, 2022 1.84 Frank Lampard 45 years Jun 30, 2023 1.47 Graham Potter 48 years Apr 2, 2023 1.53 Julian Nagelsmann 36 years Mar 24, 2023 1.94 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 50 years Nov 21, 2021 1.81 Joachim Löw 63 years Jul 31, 2021 1.87 Hassan Beltagy 37 years Mar 1, 2023 Christophe Galtier 57 years Jun 30, 2023 1.67 Hansi Flick 58 years Sep 10, 2023 1.87 Luis Fernandez 63 years Jun 30, 2018 1.62 Antonio Conte 54 years Mar 26, 2023 1.98 Zinédine Zidane 51 years Jun 30, 2021 2.10 Robert Pirès 49 years Dec 31, 2016 Dean Smith 52 years Jun 30, 2023 1.35 Diego Alonso 48 years Feb 28, 2023 1.53 Albert Celades 47 years Jun 29, 2020 1.85 Sylvain Ripoll 52 years Jul 31, 2023 1.57 Nathan Jones 50 years Feb 12, 2023 1.57 Julen Lopetegui 57 years Aug 8, 2023 1.97 Sam Allardyce 68 years Jun 30, 2023 1.39 Dunga 59 years Jun 14, 2016 2.11 Philippe Clement 49 years Jun 4, 2023 1.85 Javi Gracia 53 years May 2, 2023 1.45 Ralph Hasenhüttl 56 years Nov 7, 2022 1.46 Jesse Marsch 49 years Feb 6, 2023 1.70 Coach Available since PPG Last club Oliver Glasner 49 years Jun 30, 2023 1.72 Paolo Nicolato 56 years Jul 31, 2023 1.81 Saïd Ouaali 54 years Jun 30, 2023 1.83 Igor Tudor 45 years Jun 30, 2023 1.60 Gennaro Gattuso 45 years Jan 30, 2023 1.59 Vahid Halilhodzic 70 years Aug 11, 2022 1.74 Didier Digard 37 years Jun 30, 2023 1.70 Francisco 60 years Jun 30, 2017 0.85 Jocelyn Gourvennec 51 years Jun 16, 2022 1.48 André Villas-Boas 45 years Feb 2, 2021 1.98 Lucien Favre 65 years Jan 9, 2023 1.67 Quique Setién 64 years Sep 5, 2023 1.46 Ljubisa Tumbakovic 71 years Dec 14, 2020 1.46 Fred Rutten 60 years Jun 30, 2023 1.80 Ruud van Nistelrooy 47 years May 24, 2023 1.76 Aleksandar Jankovic 53 years Mar 3, 2021 0.80 Laurent Blanc 57 years Sep 11, 2023 2.02 Erwin van de Looi 51 years Jun 30, 2023 1.48 Scott Parker 42 years Mar 8, 2023 1.46 Ibrahima Kamara 57 years Feb 21, 2020 1.74 André Breitenreiter 49 years Feb 6, 2023 1.51 Seong-hwan Lee 39 years Dec 31, 2022 0.00 Wael Gomaa 48 years Mar 31, 2022 Vítor Pereira 55 years Apr 10, 2023 1.90 Diego Cocca 51 years Jun 19, 2023 1.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Coach Available since PPG Last club Nelo Vingada 70 years Apr 12, 2022 1.47 Gustavo Alfaro 61 years Jan 12, 2023 1.52 Rabah Madjer 64 years Jun 24, 2018 1.06 Fabio Bazzani 46 years Jun 30, 2022 1.08 Alex McLeish 64 years Apr 18, 2019 1.66 Angelos Anastasiadis 70 years Jul 15, 2019 1.57 Abdullah Avci 60 years Mar 8, 2023 1.70 Quique Sánchez Flores 58 years Apr 27, 2023 1.47 Carlos Carvalhal 57 years Jun 30, 2023 1.50 Chris Wilder 55 years May 10, 2023 1.54 Giovanni van Bronckhorst 48 years Nov 21, 2022 1.90 Walter Mazzarri 61 years May 2, 2022 1.46 Charles Akonnor 49 years Sep 13, 2021 1.55 Sergen Yalcin 50 years Dec 9, 2021 1.55 Giovanni Stroppa 55 years Sep 13, 2022 1.57 Antoine Kombouaré 59 years May 9, 2023 1.37 José Torcato - Apr 26, 2013 0.00 Bruno Labbadia 57 years Apr 3, 2023 1.53 Volodymyr Muntyan 77 years Jun 30, 2013 1.04 Igor Biscan 45 years Aug 21, 2023 2.03 Olivier Dall'Oglio 59 years Oct 17, 2022 1.34 Fatih Terim 70 years Jan 10, 2022 1.89 José Eduardo Bettencourt 62 years Feb 28, 2011 Alexandre Belinga 61 years Aug 4, 2018 1.50 Tayfun Korkut 49 years Mar 13, 2022 1.21 Coach Available since PPG Last club Domènec Torrent 61 years Jun 21, 2022 1.64 Romain Pitau 46 years Feb 7, 2023 1.05 Pierre Aubameyang 58 years Sep 19, 2018 Zoran Mamic 51 years Mar 15, 2021 2.20 Heiko Herrlich 51 years Apr 26, 2021 1.57 Davide Nicola 50 years Feb 15, 2023 1.24 Gabriele Cioffi 48 years Oct 11, 2022 1.08 John van 't Schip 59 years Dec 31, 2021 1.38 Claude Puel 62 years Dec 5, 2021 1.50 Alain Giresse 71 years Jun 20, 2023 1.44 Michel 60 years Apr 3, 2023 1.56 Julien Stéphan 42 years Jan 9, 2023 1.47 Frédéric Antonetti 62 years Jun 30, 2023 1.43 Raymond Domenech 71 years Feb 10, 2021 1.47 Cuca 60 years Apr 27, 2023 1.70 Martín Lasarte 62 years Apr 1, 2022 1.74 Andriy Shevchenko 46 years Jan 15, 2022 1.49 Vladimir Petkovic 60 years Feb 7, 2022 1.73 Reiner Maurer 63 years Jun 30, 2022 1.54 Ante Cacic 69 years Apr 6, 2023 1.80 Juan Muñiz 54 years Jul 20, 2020 1.42 Sandro Schwarz 44 years Apr 16, 2023 1.39 Aleksey Berezutski 41 years Jun 15, 2022 1.74 Felix Magath 70 years Jun 30, 2022 1.66 Marcelo Gallardo 47 years Dec 31, 2022 1.89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Allardyce. Wed have won 2018 WC woth him.in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: 2 supposedly respected posters including Gassama in their starting XI. You’ve not watched him have you, well off it at the minute 2 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: 1 hour ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: The minutes he has played were enough to tell us his integration will be a long one He's had 18 mins in the second home game against the current league leaders and he came on when Preston were in cruise control. I was at the game and saw a 19 year old possibly trying a little too hard to impress but in that time he had a 100% completion offensive pass rate (8 passes) and was the only player in both teams to achieve that. According to 3 stats bases he also only had 2 'uncontrolled touches'. I don't think he's played since because his (and Musaba's) style doesn't suit 5-4-1. The current set up and player rotation isn't working so why not give him a chance? Is he really going to make our forward line worse? I wonder if you'd be saying the same if Cadamarteri had played that 18 minutes in the same way. Or would it have been a case of the lad tried and we've got to persevere. They've both got roughly the same scoring record in youth football except Gassama has done it in the u20s champions league, in one game he single handedly ripped Man City apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pook Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Tylluan said: ... If we're still adrift after Huddersfield then Chansiri has to pull the trigger, but it'll be costly as Munoz brought a full back room with him ... I don't know enough about what Xisco/staff earn, what a credible replacement(s) might cost, or how exorbitant Moore's demands were, to figure it out, so I'll just ask: If Chansiri ends up needing to make a change, will he be looking at comparable costs to what retaining Moore and his staff would have entailed? I'm inclined to suspect not - as Moore was apparently asking for so much - but, again, know too little to presume. I'm not trying to weigh in on who's the 'bad guy', here - I have no trouble finding pros and cons for both. So I'm not trying to stir shit, here, I'm just curious. Anyone got an educated guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, pook said: If Chansiri ends up needing to make a change, will he be looking at comparable costs to what retaining Moore and his staff would have entailed? I'm inclined to suspect not - as Moore was apparently asking for so much - but, again, know too little to presume. It's all down to contracts and clauses. Munoz and his team could be on 2 year contracts but, knowing Chansiri's promotion push rhetoric, there (hopefully) might be performance clauses that go along the lines of we can sack the lot on minimal payout if we're not at not where Chansiri expected us to be at certain points of the season. If the next manager comes in then the clause might be being out of the relegation zone by Christmas, etc Edited September 17, 2023 by Tylluan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tylluan said: It's all down to contracts and clauses. Munoz and his team could be on 2 year contracts but, knowing Chansiri's promotion push rhetoric, there (hopefully) might be performance clauses that go along the lines of we can sack the lot on minimal payout if we're not at not where Chansiri expected us to be at certain points of the season. If the next manager comes in then the clause might be being out of the relegation zone by Christmas, etc Even if they are on 2 year contracts a lot have specific termination clauses of less than that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 There’s rumours of a month to month contract never mind 2 years. But god knows if it’s true or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Should that be true HO it's a nonsense, yet may explain how Xisco and Vasquez came across in their post match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: There’s rumours of a month to month contract never mind 2 years. But god knows if it’s true or not. Heard the same a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 If the month to month is true then maybe Munoz has decided he can do sod all with the squad, especially if they're not his players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Maybe that explains his scattergun approach so far. Know he hasn’t got the time to persist with a system and just needs to find something that works quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: rolling monthly would make sense with Dejphon Chancing You cad..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 hours ago, LiamOwl said: Maybe that explains his scattergun approach so far. Know he hasn’t got the time to persist with a system and just needs to find something that works quick. It's going well in that regard then... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 So, having seen the last two games. I’m changing my team again… Vasquez Iorfa, Bernard, Ihiekwe, Famewo Delgado, Byers, Buckley, Bannan Windass, Musaba I’m telling the two full backs to stay at home, they are defenders first. I want the midfield three of Byers, Buckley and Bannan to fill each others spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 We are carrying Bannan and the fraud is showing he is not up to up this level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Reesh said: We are carrying Bannan and the fraud is showing he is not up to up this level Bannan is in my team because at this point in time, he’s the only player finding his team mates. I am desperately hoping that Gassami ends up being good, and Diaby comes back, and then we change things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Remember when BFR did the dirt on us then came back years later and saved us from relegation? Would you accept, saySteve Bruce back, if he galvanised the squad @KrolMong @Tylluan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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