star Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mkowl said: Didn't the Supporters Trust make some coment the other day or did I imagine that Yes they did, saw it posted somewhre else but can't remember where. https://www.swfctrust.co.uk/news/october-update-59e9k Edited October 31, 2023 by star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) They continue to miss the obvious question - if they force him out who will take over, and/or pay the bills? They mention nothing about who might want to buy him out, not even a mention of anyone they are working with (unless that’s what their reference to Wednesdayite and Owlstalk (wish I could insert a Sid James emoji here) means) who has a pot to piss in. DC, as far as we are concerned could be a closet pig and have Neil Warnock and Sean Bean advising him - he could even be in the middle of changing our kit to Red and white stripes and erect a statue of Billy Sharp outside the South Stand entrance - the facts are, dear 1867 Group, is that until you put someone forward and back a person, group who is credible, has proven funds and is a fit and proper person(s) to takeover the club, no amount of huffing and puffing is going to change things. Get that through your thick fucking skulls. That’s why you silly bastards aren’t backed and supported by most supporters. You’re a bunch of anonymous (and alleged) supporters who are doing nothing but destabilising the club and dividing supporters. We’ve just appointed a new manager with great potential, along with a back room staff who on paper are as talented as any I can ever recall at SWFC. Those changes helped see us win our first game of the season on Sunday, at a relative canter. Things might finally be about to change for SWFC and our fortunes might, at long last, be about to get better! Yet you dumb fucks want to possibly spoil all that because of your continued vitriol, criticism and bordering upon hatred of our Chairman - without putting forward any possible real solution! I wish you’d just fuck off - and please don’t come back until you find someone who can put their money where ‘your’ mouths are! Edited October 31, 2023 by Bellsview 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 It's time for the singer and Hargreaves to cough up 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Anyone seen that muppet Worko on Youtube? Blubbing and telling DC to leave. Saaaaaad Edited October 31, 2023 by Ozzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 12 hours ago, Bellsview said: They continue to miss the obvious question - if they force him out who will take over, and/or pay the bills? They mention nothing about who might want to buy him out, not even a mention of anyone they are working with (unless that’s what their reference to Wednesdayite and Owlstalk (wish I could insert a Sid James emoji here) means) who has a pot to piss in. DC, as far as we are concerned could be a closet pig and have Neil Warnock and Sean Bean advising him - he could even be in the middle of changing our kit to Red and white stripes and erect a statue of Billy Sharp outside the South Stand entrance - the facts are, dear 1867 Group, is that until you put someone forward and back a person, group who is credible, has proven funds and is a fit and proper person(s) to takeover the club, no amount of huffing and puffing is going to change things. Get that through your thick fucking skulls. That’s why you silly bastards aren’t backed and supported by most supporters. You’re a bunch of anonymous (and alleged) supporters who are doing nothing but destabilising the club and dividing supporters. We’ve just appointed a new manager with great potential, along with a back room staff who on paper are as talented as any I can ever recall at SWFC. Those changes helped see us win our first game of the season on Sunday, at a relative canter. Things might finally be about to change for SWFC and our fortunes might, at long last, be about to get better! Yet you dumb fucks want to possibly spoil all that because of your continued vitriol, criticism and bordering upon hatred of our Chairman - without putting forward any possible real solution! I wish you’d just fuck off - and please don’t come back until you find someone who can put their money where ‘your’ mouths are! I think things have moved on a considerably since I made this post - at the time of posting I was oblivious to DC’s begging statement - and whilst I still agree with the sentiments re The 1867 Group, we’ve far bigger things to worry about now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I have just posted this in a thread that's on going but thought no harm in making a new thread so as many people as possible can see it. The Trust held a meeting last night with a few other fan groups, Clive Betts MP and Jane Hughes of the Football Supporters Association (FSA). We discussed the idea to organise an umbrella group of fan groups to agree on a consensus response to this on going situation of worrying statements. We have agreed to put a list together of all the fan groups we know of with the intention of inviting all groups, reps, etc to an initial meeting. The trust agreed with the FSA they would provide advice on how to coordinate / go forward with this before we actually meet. Hopefully this will mean the umbrella group will meet requirements of the new football regulator that is in the offing and can act as the fan group that represents the widest possible number of us for the foreseeable future. The idea being the Umbrella group has defined shared purpose that hopefully we can get consensus on but each group will keep their own identity and be able to campaign for their particular focus. The trust are keen for all group reps and people keen to get involved to get in touch through our enquiries@swfctrust.co.uk email. UTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 @EBRA Our supporters groups are too fractured to get this off the ground. The first meeting would be like the People's Front of Judea and the Judea People's Front The club has tried to bring fans groups together with their revamped fans forums. Before the first meeting, and every meeting after, Chansiri and Dooley asked that the attending groups got their heads together first and came up with relevant items to discuss and ideas to move the club forward. It's plain to see from the write ups that this didn't happen. Each group had its own agenda. I know of one invited group that declined and two that didn't fully canvas membership on what to bring. The Trust also lost their place at that table after it was put to a vote to ask them to leave. The best example of an umbrella group is Derby's. They originally all came together for charitable fundraising, under the Derby Sikh supporters group, then turned it up a notch under administration. But even then it was only to firm a united front to raise funds to keep stuff like the kids football going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 That sort of brings memories back to 2010 when there was an actual meeting of fans groups. Not long after the defeat to Palace and relegation. I attended on behalf of Owlsonline with Moz and Lisa iirc. I had posted on here about the potential for fan ownership, others had mooted it as well. To a fashion it worked OK, it spawned WTID and the key thing was that egos were left at the door (even me). It was there I learned about the financial concerns, it helped one worked in insolvency and what turned out to be true rumours were noted to the meeting by him. So WTID came to fore front a bit more. I took more of a back seat as time progressed, geography in part, the shit show of my work that mirrored the mess at S6 the other. I still remember posting a "takeover completed" story the day I bought this business. So I won't criticise their intentions because why not if you feel passionate about how the club is run, indeed will it survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Clive Betts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 @TylluanI don't disagree and even as Rome was burning in 2010 certain organisations - lets call them Wednesdayite - were still about the process. Its on the agenda for our next meeting in a week below (this is genuine) what shade of blue should we use. Tbh I really struggled with that, I work with clients where doing it yesterday is too late. I was banned from shooting from the hip on forums, not always successfully. WTID worked to a fashion. It had a meeting with the Coop, Mandaric advisors were monitoring us. I am not sure but one of our cohort was certain it forced Mandaric to make the offer pre admin not post that arising. But it will flounder because you have the working mens club committee attitude clashing with my type that gets on with it and cares Jack shit about box ticking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 All irrelevant apart from flagging to me who needs banning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, mkowl said: That sort of brings memories back to 2010 when there was an actual meeting of fans groups. Not long after the defeat to Palace and relegation. I attended on behalf of Owlsonline with Moz and Lisa iirc. I had posted on here about the potential for fan ownership, others had mooted it as well. To a fashion it worked OK, it spawned WTID and the key thing was that egos were left at the door (even me). It was there I learned about the financial concerns, it helped one worked in insolvency and what turned out to be true rumours were noted to the meeting by him. So WTID came to fore front a bit more. I took more of a back seat as time progressed, geography in part, the shit show of my work that mirrored the mess at S6 the other. I still remember posting a "takeover completed" story the day I bought this business. So I won't criticise their intentions because why not if you feel passionate about how the club is run, indeed will it survive. We didn't lose to Palace!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Andyben said: All irrelevant apart from flagging to me who needs banning Andy knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 The group will never truly represent the fan base because anyone who is broadly in favour of allowing DC to carry on won't be included in the conversation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Reesh said: We didn't lose to Palace!! It felt like it tbf - but yes we did draw but the scrawny scouse git ducking a header is an abiding memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, mkowl said: It felt like it tbf - but yes we did draw but the scrawny scouse git ducking a header is an abiding memory He'd have been forgiven had he just dived for it. **** cvnt çűñṭ. Doesn't matter how you put it, he's a **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: FullSizeRender.MOV 2.86 MB · 2 downloads Here he is Citizen Smith/Dan Brown! Edited November 3, 2023 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 It’s a good idea in principle but I fear that the bridges have been burned too far for DC to really accept any fan engagement now. The first step must be to convince him that the group will work with him rather than against him, that’s going to be a difficult sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 The problem with fan groups is they are generally run by fucking mongs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Otto_Man said: The group will never truly represent the fan base because anyone who is broadly in favour of allowing DC to carry on won't be included in the conversation. Absolutely true. Ironic too that anti-DC folk shower all sorts of abuse and puerile name calling at him yet get all precious when he responds in far more muted (though still admittedly ill advised) terms. Some of them really are nobs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Fucking hell, getting like 'The Wednesday Sing' on here 😄 I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than be associated with Dato Khan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Fucking hell, getting like 'The Wednesday Sing' on here 😄 Try Stalk for 'balance' where all non-anti DC stuff is pretty much banned 🫣 Edited November 3, 2023 by Teddy Nickelarse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Try Stalk for 'balance' where all non-anti DC stuff is pretty much banned 🫣 That's cos Hargreaves is a bald ****! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Reesh said: That's cos Hargreaves is a bald ****! Full weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Paul from Wisewood said: The problem with fan groups is they are generally run by fucking mongs Apart from WTID back in the day of course 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 There will never be a solution because for most of the louder ones, their issue with Chansiri isn't about football, it's personal. To them, Chansiri doesn't show them the respect they feel they deserve as 'the lifeblood of the club' and 'it's greatest asset' or whatever. They want someone to put an arm round them, tell them they're important, still loved and that they're the greatest fans ever in the history of fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 hours ago, mkowl said: Apart from WTID back in the day of course 😎 Erm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Reesh said: Erm Well I employed you not longer after ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, mkowl said: Well I employed you not longer after ....... After dealing with Paul Holmes you needed me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Reesh said: After dealing with Paul Holmes you needed me True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 The key is willing to work with .. improve .. support the owner in the ultimate aim achieving promotion! Not form an opposition where both legitimate and illegitimate criticism is fed equally and more division is created. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 12 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Fucking hell, getting like 'The Wednesday Sing' on here 😄 Want him gone, Buy him out! That's the only way he'll go. Letters and fan groups would mean jack shit to me and I'm not down several million. All your posts are negative shit about DC, its fucking tedious. Here's a novel idea, support the club. You're constantly banging the drum on a group that you have no idea who the 3 founders are... Ridiculous btw Are you the bald owner from Stalk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 https://twitter.com/The1867Group/status/1724178204632420750?t=a42b5zlp3UhwYhgWF68QXQ&s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Be interesting if that's gone before daylight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 One for the wank bank @Neville Facking Bartos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, mkowl said: https://twitter.com/The1867Group/status/1724178204632420750?t=a42b5zlp3UhwYhgWF68QXQ&s=19 May I be the first to say their courage is admirable, to hang a banner on a gate under nightfall is the ultimate sacrifice, I salute you, if I knew who the fuck you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Will make a half delete tarp for the huge pile of horse shit that I've just had delivered to my allotment. It'll be gone by tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Anonymous group acting under the cover of darkness, probably to hide their red leanings or ginger hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, Supercockle said: Anonymous group acting under the cover of darkness, probably to hide their red leanings or ginger hair. "Its not ginger it's autumnal gold." OK Adam. By the way your roots are showing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I appreciate there is a range of opinions on here. Some don't want any protest, most of us certainly don't want it on matchdays, some would have him frogmarched to Gaza. For me Chansiri has taken the Club as far as its feasible. You can't be an hands on owner but do it from Thailand despite the communication capability. We can't really force him to sell, but honestly it would be better for him, better for the Club if there was serious moves for a transfer to a new owner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, mkowl said: I appreciate there is a range of opinions on here. Some don't want any protest, most of us certainly don't want it on matchdays, some would have him frogmarched to Gaza. For me Chansiri has taken the Club as far as its feasible. You can't be an hands on owner but do it from Thailand despite the communication capability. We can't really force him to sell, but honestly it would be better for him, better for the Club if there was serious moves for a transfer to a new owner. Can’t disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 He needs to sell up Clubs dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: He needs to sell up Clubs dead That's the general consensus but not to any old charlatan like Adam Shaw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Rinse and repeat. Someone needs to make an offer, negotiate with the owner and agree a fee, complete due diligence and pass the EFL checks and provide ongoing proof of funds, and then pay the money. Buying Wednesday is not difficult, all the ownership is under DC. But unless some makes a formal approach and meets the criteria I have listed above, there will be no change of ownership. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 It’s embarrassing. I agree with MK, DC has probably taken the club as far as he can. But putting a piece of Tarp up with pathetic words written on it, in the dark of night is at best naive, but I think more pathetic and dumb. Put up or shut the fuck up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, KrolMong said: Rinse and repeat. Someone needs to make an offer, negotiate with the owner and agree a fee, complete due diligence and pass the EFL checks and provide ongoing proof of funds, and then pay the money. Buying Wednesday is not difficult, all the ownership is under DC. But unless some makes a formal approach and meets the criteria I have listed above, there will be no change of ownership. Will Chansiri actually engage in the process. I know someone who has offered to at least work as an introducer due to their US business contacts and simply as no feedback from up on high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, Snap said: DC didn't have the money so had to borrow it with the lender of the money now having a lien on the ground. The capital isn't being reduced by any significant amount, the annual money paid to the lender covers interest only. The loan amount still stands at circa £60m. Absolute horse shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Andyben said: Absolute horse shit. and thats being gentle???? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Just now, Beaconowl said: and thats being gentle???? 🤣 Yes. Because after spelling it out for past 4 yrs I can't be arsed any more Edited November 14, 2023 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Andyben said: Yes. Because after spelling it out for past 4 yrs I can't be arsed any more He is fairly new to this forum, he couldve missed it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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