Dejphon Chansiri's glorious Owls v Pubehead tax dodging ****'s ICI heavy metal poison inflicted Boro

[Andyben]

Goooo on Musaba @Tylluan

[Andyben]

Great movement and finish 

[Winco]

Get in!

nothing better to shut the haters up.

 

[owl71]

Get the fuck in.  👍 We are ahead in a league match.  👏😳

[Reesh]

2 minutes ago, owl71 said:

Get the fuck in.  👍 We are ahead in a league match.  👏😳

Like Hull away.

[owl71]

2 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Like Hull away.

Oh yeah we were ahead for a bit there.   The difference is I fancy our chances of conceding less than four tonight. 

[Reesh]

Valentin and Delgado playing well and offering a threat.

[Chelters]

Fletcher should be scoring that

[Andyben]

This set up is a decent combo of last seasons shape, but woth more tempo and attacking intent.

Could work.

A proper LWB would be nice.

*checks if Ze Roberto is on a free stilll

[Canterburyowl]

Fletchers a bit meh, rather have Steven back... Valentin is marauding!!! Right player so far!

[owl71]

Valentin is well on the way to being my new favourite player.  A big upgrade on Palmer.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

It is better for sure.

I still have concerns that once the opposition get hold of the ball it's still a bit too easy to pass through the lines in midfield and slide in balls to the attacking players.

We therefore need to keep going forward and not sit back inviting pressure

[Canterburyowl]

Just fuck off

[Andyben]

*****.

[Reesh]

That's a foul surely.

[Andyben]

Stick Gassama on for Fletcher 

[Canterburyowl]

Their confidence is shot to shit. Xiscos time is up

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

Dracula in goal for us. Doesn't like crosses

[Andyben]

Good sub that.

We've won 

[Andyben]

Just now, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

Dracula in goal for us. Doesn't like crosses

Neither does Jesus TBH 

[Canterburyowl]

Diaby wtf

[Andyben]

I'd think about bringing Byers on......

[Canterburyowl]

Oh good Palmers coming on, that will get it done

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

I think we have to accept we are just not very good 

[Canterburyowl]

And Bakinson, he has given up now

[Andyben]

Tbf at LWB I hope 

[Andyben]

Can't fault either of those subs 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Andyben

[Canterburyowl]

I actually think there is a core of players in the squad who are not as bad as results suggest, they are shot of confidence already and not sure Munoz has anyclue wtf he is actually doing. 

[Canterburyowl]

1 minute ago, Andyben said:

Can't fault either of those subs 

Have you been drinking AB??

[Canterburyowl]

Bakinson playing up top??

[Andyben]

8 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Can't fault either of those subs 

 

6 minutes ago, Canterburyowl said:

Have you been drinking AB??

Put a stop to them down our left and Buckley was lost

[Canterburyowl]

Agree re Buckley mate

[Winco]

12 minutes ago, Canterburyowl said:

I actually think there is a core of players in the squad who are not as bad as results suggest, they are shot of confidence already and not sure Munoz has anyclue wtf he is actually doing. 

Really?

are you a tennis ball lobber too?

 

[Winco]

Should’ve been game over!

byers wtf.

[Canterburyowl]

14 minutes ago, Winco said:

Really?

are you a tennis ball lobber too?

 

No.. why do you ask? Bit unnecessary

[Andyben]

Seen enough to think we may be approaching the corner, if not quite ready to turn it, yet.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

The basic footballing skills of some of our players leaves a lot to be desired. How one decent bit of play can be immediately undone by crossing it into the Kop, that clearance at the end when you have time puts us under pressure with a free kick.

One positive was Valentin, not difficult to be MoM amongst that lot.

At least its a point but still not much to suggest that we have the quality to avoid relegation 

[Winco]

2 minutes ago, Canterburyowl said:

No.. why do you ask? Bit unnecessary

Because I thought that  was a better performance than the Ipswich game that’s all you can ask at this minute, you seem super critical when clearly it’s improved a bit.

Valentin had a blinder some of his wing work was brilliant in the first half and really our strikers should be attacking the ball more.

still look a nervous side though.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

1 minute ago, Andyben said:

Seen enough to think we may be approaching the corner, if not quite ready to turn it, yet.

I mean apart from Boro were as poor as us and as devoid of confidence too.

Our midfield is piss poor and there is no strike force to cause issues 

There was at least a semblance of a style of play, but its all far too slow and predictable.

And better sides will carve through us far too easily 

 

[Canterburyowl]

@WincoNot trying to be super critical, just dont agree on some of the decision making. I dont rate the manager and I stand by that. I also believe he has chopped and changed it all so much so far, that the players lack confidence. I agree about Valentin and said as much earlier.

Edited September 19, 2023 by Canterburyowl

[owl71]

That performance offers some reason for hope.  The biggest question after Saturdays utter shit show was how on earth are we going to create chances?  That at least got answered tonight. Yes, there are a stack of other question marks about this squad. There were decent balls into the box that didn’t really get attacked.  There were periods of defensive panic.  There were some bloody awful decisions by midfielders.  Yes we know.  But, unlike Saturday, we didn’t look like a side that will be lucky to get 20 points.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

4 minutes ago, Winco said:

Because I thought that  was a better performance than the Ipswich game that’s all you can ask at this minute, you seem super critical when clearly it’s improved a bit.

Valentin had a blinder some of his wing work was brilliant in the first half and really our strikers should be attacking the ball more.

still look a nervous side though.

Tbh it was 5% better - but I personally fail to see where adequate quality is. Far too many weak links all around the pitch 

[KrolMong]

That was fucking abysmal.

Boro’ shit themselves first half and then realised we were awful and tore into us second half.

We ran out of legs, we didn’t look fit, the changes were bad. Not acceptable.

We are an absolute country mile of being Championship quality. We aren’t mobile enough, agressive enough and we don’t carry any sort of goal threat.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

Just now, owl71 said:

That performance offers some reason for hope.  The biggest question after Saturdays utter shit show was how on earth are we going to create chances?  That at least got answered tonight. Yes, there are a stack of other question marks about this squad. There were decent balls into the box that didn’t really get attacked.  There were periods of defensive panic.  There were some bloody awful decisions by midfielders.  Yes we know.  But, unlike Saturday, we didn’t look like a side that will be lucky to get 20 points.

I can't see how we are going to win games - it's going to be a constant struggle to score goals. It was a good goal, Byers should have scored, but beyond that ?

At the same time the defence and keeper have a mistake in them

And when midfield does lose control then the opposition create way too many chances. We were fortunate that their final ball was as bad as ours 

But it's more I can't see how much we can up it quality wise. I just think it's a very average group of players

 

[KrolMong]

My issue is how easily we don’t keep the ball,  but also how we are awful at getting the ball back. At times we are so focussed on shape that we forget that shape is there to retrieve possession. Boro’ ran the show second half.

We are an absolute mile off this division, both tactically and personnel.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

Just now, KrolMong said:

That was fucking abysmal.

Boro’ shit themselves first half and then realised we were awful and tore into us second half.

We ran out of legs, we didn’t look fit, the changes were bad. Not acceptable.

We are an absolute country mile of being Championship quality. We aren’t mobile enough, agressive enough and we don’t carry any sort of goal threat.

I get people want to have a degree of hope but I can't argue with any of your analysis.

I have my doubts about Xisco, but I can't see how another coach would be able to raise the basic standard of the players.

You can't fault their effort, they are committed, they aren't underperforming their ability. Sadly I just think that ability is marginally below the standard elsewhere in the Championship 

[cheat]

I’m not really seeing any positives from that I’m afraid.

Decent first half, but my God Middlesbrough were shocking; and we somehow let them dominate the second half.

It still seems so far off there being an obvious coherent plan of how we’re supposed to be playing. And those last subs - smacked of just a case of just trying something random and hoping it paid off.

 

[HoylandOwl]

First half we were better than we were all game on Saturday, but the second half was as turgid as it gets. It's alarmingly bad how we concede goals around the half time break and full time. I've not looked at the exact numbers but I'm pretty sure the majority of the ones we have, have been just before half time, just after or at the end of games. 

Southampton's winner, Preston's winner, Hull (A), Ipswich on Saturday to name just 4 which happened around the points of the game which teams need to be switched on and we just don't. The goal they scored galvanised them and gave them belief, god knows how they had any because my god they're bad. Very bad. And that's saying something. 

Fair play to Valentin tonight, he put a shift in, showed what he's capable of and needs to keep his shirt unless Xisco plays draw the team out of the hat on Saturday again. Vasquez is getting some question marks over his ability to dominate his box, but I can't see too much wrong with his performance tonight beyond conceding, the way he came off his line to close down the opportunity in the second half (can't remember who was put through) typified how intelligent a keeper he can be. I thought Bernard had a pretty decent game too to be honest, he's a shrewd signing. 

BUT....

I said it on Saturday, and I'll repeat it now. I'll be amazed if our manager is still in position after the Sunderland game. 

As noted by many, we're so disjointed, the fitness levels at the end of the game were shocking and the amount of basic errors in possession was bordering on criminal. We give the ball away SOOO much it's embarrassing. Sky will be either regretting having us on their channel again next week, or be pleased if Sunderland give us a tonking. 

 

[HoylandOwl]

 

[HoylandOwl]