owl71 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I genuinely do not consider that is case. Oh come on. All we need to do is fire a bloke who had 21 wins in 36 at Watford 2-3 years ago, and bring in someone who knows English football and the Championship, and everything will be fine. 🙄 I hope we are both wrong, because it will be a long fucking season otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceups Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Didn’t the squad at Watford just come down from the Prem? I didn’t follow him at Watford but surely he had a squad much better prepped than this one. Either way it is a results business and this bloke is way out of his depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, owl71 said: Oh come on. All we need to do is fire a bloke who had 21 wins in 36 at Watford 2-3 years ago, and bring in someone who knows English football and the Championship, and everything will be fine. 🙄 I hope we are both wrong, because it will be a long fucking season otherwise. The good news is it can't surely get worse. Well it can't league position wise that's for sure I appreciate memories fade but this is certainly one of the worst quality Championship squads we have had, relative to the rest in the league. I don't see any redeeming features, maybe a new coach will galvanise a little but their basic levels are so piss poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Laceups said: Didn’t the squad at Watford just come down from the Prem? I didn’t follow him at Watford but surely he had a squad much better prepped than this one. Either way it is a results business and this bloke is way out of his depth. Yep. They had the majority of their Premier League side. Were already well versed in English football, used to the hustle and bustle of it. When we got him, I clinged onto that hope that he could build upon a decent side. But... It seems the Xisco we got was the one who did fuck all at any of his other jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Lot of em can just fuck off absolute shambles and an embarrassment to the badge if he’s not gone by the time I get off the coach I’m burning the twattin stadium down fuckin fuming 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I’ll never agree to get DC out cause we’re fucked without him but now I’m all for Xisco going. shambles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Chansiri out xisco Out tits out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 The way he wants to play needed millions spent on the squad up front. Instead we can only play in our own half and kill ourself. He doesn’t know how to fix it and comes from that dogmatic rather than pragmatic groups of coaches. It’s pretty much negligent to still have him in charge after this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Chansiri out xisco Out tits out Which shows how bad things are. Tits out should always be first thing on the list! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bellsview said: Which shows how bad things are. Tits out should always be first thing on the list! HAHAHAHA. That proper made me laugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said: He's usually very good with it. But when all that happens is it's constantly back at you, and it's pointless passing it forward then.... The body language of the players has been awful today. Says everything. He was absolutely asking for it 2nd half, drawing the forward purposely right to the ball. WTF? That one that ricocheted into the side netting?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Xisco's post match comments XM: The performance was very, very strange. After the penalty - maybe it was in, maybe out - it happens The second half we had chances to stay in the game. We are in a difficult dynamic. The crossbar was an important chance. We need more quality in the last part. We need more patience. The performance, as I say, was strange. 3-0 is like they were high up and we were low down. On the chants about him. XM: All I can say it's important we stay together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Winco said: I’ll never agree to get DC out cause we’re fucked without him but now I’m all for Xisco going. shambles. We are fucked with him in charge. No point having or fronting the money if you have no clue how to utilise it effectively. His PR skills have simply regressed to embarrassing with the fan base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 XM: It's important that I believe in the players. I know we need to improve. I know right now we don't have the quality but I know how hard they work. I'll continue until my last day. When I arrived it was not an easy situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Chelters said: I’m usually loathe to chop and change managers but Xisco has to go. We have to get a manager in who can mould something out of this lot, I think there is a fourth from bottom team in there somewhere. Depends who Doyen or whoever Pikachu works for now nominate, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: XM: It's important that I believe in the players. I know we need to improve. I know right now we don't have the quality but I know how hard they work. I'll continue until my last day. When I arrived it was not an easy situation. This comment from him has tipped me right over the top. We don't have the quality..... YOU BROUGHT THE PLAYERS IN. I'll continue till my last day..... I HOPE YOU'VE HAD IT. When I arrived it was not an easy situation..... ZERO accountability for the situation the team find themselves in. Get him gone. Absolute clown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 XM: Physically the team is ready but we need to improve. We are in this moment and this dynamic. All I can say is sorry for this moment and what we are. I'm proud of the players and I know how hard they are working. Tomorrow we have a full day and I go full power ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I am not sure ours will come this calendar year Cheerful sod! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Winco said: I’ll never agree to get DC out cause we’re fucked without him but now I’m all for Xisco going. shambles. Spot on, though I'd draw the line at "never". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, HappyOwl said: Lot of em can just fuck off absolute shambles and an embarrassment to the badge if he’s not gone by the time I get off the coach I’m burning the twattin stadium down fuckin fuming 😡 Ditto, Hap, apart from the bit about arson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Cheerful sod! 🤣 Realistic based on what I have seen sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Harder than you thought it would be? No. XM: My experience at Watford we had success and this one (job) is more difficult. But this is the life and this is why they signed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Why does he keep talking about working on something they can’t do? There are some very limited teams in this league that get some results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Oh well there’d be nowt to talk about if we was winning all the time! xisco is obviously ducked but did he actually have any day in the signings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Chansiri out xisco Out tits out They were stood behind me this afternoon, Paul. The "tits". Absolutely obnoxious gobshite bastards. Nearly two hours of sickening scumbags enjoying themselves in the midst of a Wednesday tragedy. As if it wasn't bad enough without. 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 The swift change though, "we were going for it" mantra from Chansiri to the "we just hope to stay in the league" Let's be honest most of us thought the former was not feasible, but even I didn't think the struggles to be near the required level to survive would be so short 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 What an utterly futile performance. The only thing is if some change comes from it. Goals absolutely self inflicted. Some of those out there today weren't even properly trying even before the goals. And the goalkeeper's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Watch this...... Laughing when he's told people were chanting for him to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division. You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance. I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working. It’s a shambles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, KrolMong said: We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division. You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance. I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working. It’s a shambles. But apart from that mate, we should be OK yeah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Fuck me. obsessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Duplicate post. Apologies. Edited September 23, 2023 by Teddy Nickelarse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. 1 minute ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Just now, HoylandOwl said: You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions. Maybe he meant 8 home and 8 away? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Winco said: Fuck me. obsessed. Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions. I know it was an error😀 I did say league games. Cup games were free shots almost like pre-season games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Ditto, Hap, apart from the bit about arson. I’m more mad that I come back on this forum after all the abuse. I’m absolutely fuming mi daughter (14) had just realised what being a wednesdayite is all about so every cloud 😡😡😡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I know it was an error😀 I did say league games. Cup games were free shots almost like pre-season games. Free shots. AKA ones we should win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, HappyOwl said: I’m more mad that I come back on this forum after all the abuse. I’m absolutely fuming mi daughter (14) had just realised what being a wednesdayite is all about so every cloud 😡😡😡 HappyOwl. Back being happy. 🙂 Welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: HappyOwl. Back being happy. 🙂 Welcome back. 🙂👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 More Mulis to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceups Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Looks like Steven Gerrard in a German porno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Andyben said: More Mulis to be honest In Jos, Monk, Pulis and now Xisco he certainly has a talent in picking some right shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Laceups said: Looks like Steven Gerrard in a German porno Probably more penetration than our attackers And the defence needs stiffening And the midfield is impotent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Free shots. AKA ones we should win? Of course. Just that given the late start and wholesale changes, the cup games were always going to be more experimental.... a chance to try things and players without the white hot pressure of the league games (IMO) Anyway I originally said 10 league games and we need to be seeing progress.... I've changed my mind - 8 league games is enough. He needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Of course. Just that given the late start and wholesale changes, the cup games were always going to be more experimental.... a chance to try things and players without the white hot pressure of the league games (IMO) Anyway I originally said 10 league games and we need to be seeing progress.... I've changed my mind - 8 league games is enough. He needs to go. Yeah, I know what you're saying. I did have some sympathy for him at the start, and I got the whole 'trust in the process' stuff. It made sense THEN.. But that's what pre season games are for.... Allowances are made for mistakes, lack of cohesion with new players coming in, new systems etc. But, after a few games/weeks, you expect to see more patterns of play appearing, a sense of direction. Suppose we do have both now though... We see patterns of absolute shite, and the direction is back down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Yeah, I know what you're saying. I did have some sympathy for him at the start, and I got the whole 'trust in the process' stuff. It made sense THEN.. But that's what pre season games are for.... Allowances are made for mistakes, lack of cohesion with new players coming in, new systems etc. But, after a few games/weeks, you expect to see more patterns of play appearing, a sense of direction. Suppose we do have both now though... We see patterns of absolute shite, and the direction is back down. Yes, no argument from me there. It really is proper bobbar. Got to go before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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