Tank_Owl2,0 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 It definitely interesting to see this rake of younger coaches coming but I suppose this has been happening for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 7 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: It definitely interesting to see this rake of younger coaches coming but I suppose this has been happening for a while now. Article in The Times on Saturday about it , failed to mention DR though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 12 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: It definitely interesting to see this rake of younger coaches coming but I suppose this has been happening for a while now. I guess in the UK the trend of former high profile players being fast tracked into high profile manager jobs has been seen not to work. Eg Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney. The players that were more cerebral and were interested in the tactics like Pep and Arteta are still coming through. Football does go in trends as well, so what works at one club will be followed by other, to varying degrees of success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmesfield_owl Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 7 hours ago, lobster said: Article in The Times on Saturday about it , failed to mention DR though Good! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 16 hours ago, MAL said: 31 year old Fabien Hurzeler in at Brighton 14 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: It definitely interesting to see this rake of younger coaches coming but I suppose this has been happening for a while now. 7 hours ago, lobster said: Article in The Times on Saturday about it , failed to mention DR though Article I've just read about new bloke at Brighton on BBC Sport football page also fails to mention our man when it seemed more obvious than not to do so. There is one big difference, though: he's already been the boss before and got his team promoted in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 On 13/06/2024 at 22:17, Tylluan said: My mate makes a living out of it. Him and two others have set up to solely concentrate on 'future manager' analysis. They break win % down into about 20 different sub genres. Teams above, teams below, points tally in expected/unexpected wins. Then there's tactics and set ups. Transfer spend against league position and onward sales. Media presentation, interaction with other club personnel. Could they work with a DoF? Current backroom staff? Wage expectations. Do they drag players with them, like Warnock did with Shaun Derry etc. How long to get going, how much do they change, possible fan expectation if they were brought in. And god knows what else they look at. There's quite a few managers agents that are taking notice of what they do and they're inundated for 'pre pack' work for agents to hawk round clubs promoting their clients Is Garry Monk on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Robbie Savage new manager at Macclesfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 8 hours ago, Skamp said: Robbie Savage new manager at Macclesfield Not too shocked by that, he’s one of the co owners or summat too isn’t he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 9 hours ago, Skamp said: Robbie Savage new manager at Macclesfield First team coach Peter Band, one of Robbie's good mates and a stalwart at both incarnations of the club, had a massive bust up with manager Mick Clegg a couple of weeks ago and Band walked out. Savage tried to meditate but didn't happen so in the end Clegg got the push and Band has come back as assistant manager. Emile Heskey has also signed on as forwards coach. Savage has had to step down from his DoF role. He'd also previously turned down the DoF job at Salford, back in March, cos it would have meant giving up his shares in Macclesfield. Giggs gave himself the job instead. To be honest, with the money they've spent and the squad already there Macclesfield should walk their division so it's a free hit for Savage and probably why he installed himself. They've got a National League squad in the Northern Premier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Steve Cooper, expected to be new Leicester manager according to Sky sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 On 18/06/2024 at 07:34, HoylandOwl said: Not too shocked by that, he’s one of the co owners or summat too isn’t he keep him off Radio 5 Live hopefully Can he take Chris Sutton with him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 They once did 606 from the Crucible in Sheffield and I went as part of the audience. Mark Chapman and the other guests, one might have been Clinton but I could be wrong, spent time talking to the audience during the news, weather and traffic breaks whilst Savage scurried off stage. During the show, he spent most of his time looking at his phone and posting on Twitter and when it was over, he dashed off the stage so fast, it was a blur whilst the others stayed behind for selfies and so forth. Any liking towards the bloke disappeared that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Alan Finney said: Is he a self-serving narcissist or summat. He could try looking in the mirror once and while and give his head a wobble. ^^ this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 13 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Steve Cooper, expected to be new Leicester manager according to Sky sports It was Graham Potter the day before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 David Moyes says we once offered him our job…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I can't work out the purpose of that article. Sounds more about Ferguson and his dislike for Wednesday for Hirst not going there than anything else. 'Name me a player'. Fucking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Old news and lets be honest, in 2002 why would anyone recommend the Wednesday manager's job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 23 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Steve Cooper, expected to be new Leicester manager according to Sky sports Confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4 hours ago, Andyben said: Old news and lets be honest, in 2002 why would anyone recommend the Wednesday manager's job 21 Danny Wilson Northern Ireland 6 July 1998 21 March 2000 80 23 40 17 28.75 22 Paul Jewell England 21 June 2000 12 February 2001 38 12 21 5 31.58 23 Peter Shreeves England 12 February 2001 17 October 2001 31 11 11 9 35.48 24 Terry Yorath Wales 17 October 2001 31 October 2002 56 16 25 15 28.57 25 Chris Turner England 7 November 2002 19 September 2004 96 29 36 31 30.21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 He had a lot of competition 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 But for a young up coming manager, wjy go to a club without a pot to piss in and the state of us at th time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Andyben said: But for a young up coming manager, wjy go to a club without a pot to piss in and the state of us at th time Wise move from young Moyes as opposed to joining the Wednesday managerial graveyard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 This is David Moyes we're talking here, not Pep Guardiola. Our biggest loss in recent years was Walter Smith or we should have gone for Jim Smith. I always thought a combo of Jim Smith and Roland Nilsson would have made us great. Based on nothing but potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 25 minutes ago, Skamp said: This is David Moyes we're talking here, not Pep Guardiola. Our biggest loss in recent years was Walter Smith or we should have gone for Jim Smith. I always thought a combo of Jim Smith and Roland Nilsson would have made us great. Based on nothing but potential He was a rising star at PNE when a financially brassic Wednesday approached him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 31 minutes ago, Skamp said: This is David Moyes we're talking here, not Pep Guardiola. Our biggest loss in recent years was Walter Smith or we should have gone for Jim Smith. I always thought a combo of Jim Smith and Roland Nilsson would have made us great. Based on nothing but potential Village 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) Wrong thread Edited June 20 by Beaconowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Beaconowl said: Switched off! So embarrassing and annoying with all this talent Southgate plays these tactics. **** Bayern don’t play like this, Man City don’t, Arsenal don’t, Real don’t. Southgate does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 23 minutes ago, Gamblor said: Bayern don’t play like this, Man City don’t, Arsenal don’t, Real don’t. Southgate does. That’s because they’re all clubs who want to win things. Southgate is a PL club who are happy to stay up type manager, in charge of a team of Champions League players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Hallelujah FAW have seen the light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 17 minutes ago, Tylluan said: Hallelujah FAW have seen the light Thought of you when I saw that earlier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 22 hours ago, Tylluan said: Hallelujah FAW have seen the light I saw a few people in the media saying he’s been treated harshly! As an observer from afar, the team have looked toothless for so long, yes losing Bale was of course going to be a problem but the games I’ve seen have just looked flat. Bereft of ideas and about as inspiring as England v Denmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) @HoylandOwl This is a good write up of Page's tenure with Wales. He should have gone after the World Cup as the signs were there, then. Extremely limited, tactically, and we have a decent crop of youngsters coming through. The u21s top their qualification group. The objective for the next coach should be the next Euros. If we scrape World Cup qualification then fair play but it needs a four year plan https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cprr898dnz0o Edited June 22 by Tylluan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 On 20/06/2024 at 07:13, HoylandOwl said: David Moyes says we once offered him our job…. Remember this and I also remember Moyes talking about it a few years later. Apparently Moyes sought advice from Alex Ferguson about the approach, who (wisely) told him not to touch us with a fucking barge pole (or words to that effect). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Used to manage L Orient 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Alan Finney said: Sunderland have confirmed Frenchman Regis le Bris will become the club's new Head Coach. Who he? I’m guessing the mackems are underwhelmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Lorient got relegated last season and Le Bris took a lot of flak for it. His spending meant they had the 8th biggest wage bill in Ligue 1 but the team never gelled. He kept chopping and changing and at times played suicidal Keeganesque football instead of picking the games he could get results out of and shutting up shop in others. They got done on goal difference after needing an 8 goal swing on the last day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 hours ago, Alan Finney said: Thanks for that. Going to be interesting to see how he works out for them. I reckon @mkowl could hazard a well repeated guess 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 41 minutes ago, Alan Finney said: Really? Let's hear it then @mkowl. No rush, get pots done first. I am possibly going mid October international break. And no pots needed doing as been in sunny Scarborough last couple of days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 10 minutes ago, Alan Finney said: Oh, well done. Hope you’ve all had a good time. Well staying at The Grand which is an interesting experience 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 22 minutes ago, mkowl said: Well staying at The Grand which is an interesting experience Any good? I await a review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 41 minutes ago, mkowl said: I am possibly going mid October international break. And no pots needed doing as been in sunny Scarborough last couple of days Pfft, won't make it to the end of September...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, Reesh said: Any good? I await a review. Last I heard was that it's tired. Very, very tired. Handy for the town centre though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fOWLmouth Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 9 minutes ago, Skamp said: Last I heard was that it's tired. Very, very tired. Handy for the town centre though. Lad and his girlfriend are going to a gig in Scarborough and are staying in the Grand.They were saying it’s being renovated but at a very slow rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Britannia also own the Royal and that's had more money spent on it but I know people who love the Grand and are always going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fOWLmouth Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, mkowl said: I am possibly going mid October international break. And no pots needed doing as been in sunny Scarborough last couple of days I was in Bridlington on Friday,a day out on the motorcycle.Lovely weather and while ambling around I took note of the football shirt wearing adults.The count was:- Wednesday (a) 3 Arsenal (h) 1. Barnsley (a) 1. Leeds (h) 1. Man.Utd (h) 1. Newcastle (h) 1. Notts.Forest (a) 1. Is that a recommendation for Bridlington or do we have poor taste? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, fOWLmouth said: I was in Bridlington on Friday,a day out on the motorcycle.Lovely weather and while ambling around I took note of the football shirt wearing adults.The count was:- Wednesday (a) 3 Arsenal (h) 1. Barnsley (a) 1. Leeds (h) 1. Man.Utd (h) 1. Newcastle (h) 1. Notts.Forest (a) 1. Is that a recommendation for Bridlington or do we have poor taste? More a sign that we have too many adults that still wear football shirts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 And back to the managerial merry go round. Bit late on this one, as it happened on Friday, but Graham Coughlan has been sacked by Newport. Difference of opinion with the owner on the direction of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 South Wales, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 On to my other job of hotel inspector, then we stayed at the Britannia because we had a gift voucher pressie to use and not fancying Redcar or Hartlepool really. So it was Mrs MK who said let's try it, because if nothing else it is an iconic building in Scarborough. Indeed it was first opened in 1867 But we had read the reviews so there was a degree of trepidation, but our room was more than adequate. But we did see a few moaning at reception and another lady actually held the door for me "the less time I spend in there the better" was her reason. So I think it's a lottery. My overriding reaction is the tired theme but there was evidence of refurbishment going in. Equally what type of hotel is it trying to be. There were the coach parties, a Norwegian school contingent, weekenders on the piss and more genteel crowd. A lot of wasted space but then the reception is small and incorrectly placed, the bar was small and next to reception. So you had 2 queues plus folk going through to the exit. To get to our room via the lift we had to walk past the small games room. Really ? So a place that needs more staff for sure, the sun terrace that overlooks the South Bay needed hosing from the seagull shit, get rid of stuff that appeals to the chav crowd, who the fuck wants bingo these days. And focus on the historical architecture in the lobby. I mean you could spend £20m easy but you would never get the financial return as you would not get the numbers. But if you focus on the sell it cheap crowd, coach parties you will never make the profit to invest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Thankyou Judith Chalmers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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