Supercockle Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 10 minutes ago, TheExile said: Great to have Bernard back. As we are playing from the back I think we need to replace Diaby though he’s too erratic. Im intrigued by Rohls reference to looking for diamonds. I wonder if he means rough diamonds or just a bit of ready made quality on loan I think he’ll bring another CB in before the start. Of the ones we have, only Dish is comfortable with the ball at his feet. I suspect Rohl will have some loans lined up. Young players who have the quality but are still rough diamonds as they perhaps lack the experience and consistency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Big difference will be having Chalobah in front of the two central defenders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 The static midfield and dodgy wingbacks has been our biggest hurdle with playing from the back. The CBs are going to look jumpy when they have nobody to pass to in midfield or out wide and when they do it comes straight back with 2 players following it in at full pelt half the time. Look at the difference in what follows from when Valentin gets the ball from a CB to when Palmer/Johnson gets it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Pierce Charles is wanted by Mansfield and Harrogate on loan. Ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 minutes ago, Reesh said: Pierce Charles is wanted by Mansfield and Harrogate on loan. Ideal. Unless the recent Twitter rumour of Ben Hamer being injured is correct. Hopefully not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, TheExile said: Great to have Bernard back. As we are playing from the back I think we need to replace Diaby though he’s too erratic. There'll be games when we need a Diaby or a Ihiekwe. The likes Kieffer Moore and Macaulay Langstaff will be aiming to target the likes of Famewo and Bernard and Diaby is very effective at being a brick wall if that's all he has to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Owling_Wolf Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 37 minutes ago, Tylluan said: There'll be games when we need a Diaby or a Ihiekwe. The likes Kieffer Moore and Macaulay Langstaff will be aiming to target the likes of Famewo and Bernard and Diaby is very effective at being a brick wall if that's all he has to do. Absolutely agree with that but hope we've been giving the estimable Bambo hypnotherapy, so we don't see any more of him trying to dribble the ball out whilst last man! 🤯 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Petrie Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Troyes get a windfall… so maybe don’t need to haggle so hard over Ugbo? Unless of course it’s all a City Group internal paper exercise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tylluan said: There'll be games when we need a Diaby or a Ihiekwe. The likes Kieffer Moore and Macaulay Langstaff will be aiming to target the likes of Famewo and Bernard and Diaby is very effective at being a brick wall if that's all he has to do. Yeah we will need an Ihiekwe (I think he’s our best traditional “defender”) and Diaby is decent when tracking an attacker down the channel but he plays like an individual and was at fault way too many times to be trusted if we want to move forward. Happy to be proven wrong but whilst we do need physical and old school defenders in some scenarios I’m not sure he’s in that bracket either Edited July 18 by TheExile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 hours ago, Bob Petrie said: Troyes get a windfall… so maybe don’t need to haggle so hard over Ugbo? Unless of course it’s all a City Group internal paper exercise? How can this happen, but Man U weren't allowed to sign Todibo from Nice because of the common ownership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 21 minutes ago, Andyben said: How can this happen, but Man U weren't allowed to sign Todibo from Nice because of the common ownership? City do what they want by paying for better lawyers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Its because Nice & Man U are in UEFA competitions this season Edited July 19 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, mkowl said: City do what they want by paying for better lawyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 18/07/2024 at 19:31, Reesh said: Pierce Charles is wanted by Mansfield and Harrogate on loan. Ideal. Agreed. That would be a cracking move either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 I don't know where he fits into either team. Harrogate have two established keepers in Mark Oxley and James Belshaw. Both fighting for the 1 shirt as they played half a season each last season. Phil Priestley is a solid enough keeper coach but he's been at Harrogate since 2017 for a reason. If he goes to Mansfield he'll start number 2 behind Christy Pym but Scott Flinders is also there. Adam Collin only has a UEFA B licence and got promoted from the kids set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 minutes ago, Tylluan said: I don't know where he fits into either team. Harrogate have two established keepers in Mark Oxley and James Belshaw. Both fighting for the 1 shirt as they played half a season each last season. Phil Priestley is a solid enough keeper coach but he's been at Harrogate since 2017 for a reason. If he goes to Mansfield he'll start number 2 behind Christy Pym but Scott Flinders is also there. Adam Collin only has a UEFA B licence and got promoted from the kids set up. How is this kind of thing accomplished generally, Ty? Not on about these clubs specifically but is it more likely the loaning club asks us about his availability or that we've asked certain clubs about him possibly going out to them? Or are general chats going on regularly between many clubs at various levels, so that when a player like PC becomes ready for going out on loan, we aren't starting completely from scratch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 There's usually links between the clubs that the player is loaned to, like us getting Beadle cos of Bibbo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Any trialists travelled with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 6 minutes ago, Andyben said: Any trialists travelled with us? With your contacts I thought you would be there in person? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 One thing people seem to have missed is that Ugbo is at his best when he has Musaba in the team .So for any other club splashing the cash would be a real gamble without Musaba . Accoring to Football League World Stoke are the favourites for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 46 minutes ago, lobster said: One thing people seem to have missed is that Ugbo is at his best when he has Musaba in the team .So for any other club splashing the cash would be a real gamble without Musaba . Accoring to Football League World Stoke are the favourites for him Football League World are about as informed as Alan Finney from here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 hours ago, Beaconowl said: With your contacts I thought you would be there in person? I've already said I just make all this shit up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 18 minutes ago, Andyben said: I've already said I just make all this shit up... You don’t say 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 @Owlsonline's Toby Collyer and Ethan Wheatley start for Man U v Rangers which is on live now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 5 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: How is this kind of thing accomplished generally, Ty? Not on about these clubs specifically but is it more likely the loaning club asks us about his availability or that we've asked certain clubs about him possibly going out to them? Or are general chats going on regularly between many clubs at various levels, so that when a player like PC becomes ready for going out on loan, we aren't starting completely from scratch? As @Reesh has said there's usually a connection between the clubs, somewhere, and Bibbo/Beadle is a good comparison. Clubs will also let it be known that certain players are available but these tend to be older players. We've put it out there that a couple are available for loan or to buy if the offer is right. And finally clubs looking to fill positions, instead of specific players, will be actively watching the market to see who becomes available. That tends to be the last minute loan deals. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 6 hours ago, Tylluan said: he goes to Mansfield he'll start number 2 behind Christy Pym but Scott Flinders is also there. Adam Collin only has a UEFA B licence and got promoted from the kids set up. Done some digging and Clough is sending their young prospect, Owen Mason, out on loan. Pym will still be first choice but Flinders is moving to 3rd choice in order to do his coaching licence. That would leave an opening to at least push Pym. Then there's the extra cup games with the EFL Trophy games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 4 hours ago, Andyben said: Any trialists travelled with us? Yes, a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 32 minutes ago, Andyben said: Yes, a keeper. Cheers pal. Maybe there's legs in the rumour Harmetis injured then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 7 minutes ago, Andyben said: Cheers pal. Maybe there's legs in the rumour Harmetis injured then? Yeah. Was a lad called Shelvey from Dundalk. Dunno if he's related to Voldemort from Newcastle /Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Andyben said: Was a lad called Shelvey from Dundalk. Assuming you're not taking the piss he's certainly an interesting character. Came up through Forest's youth system and had a few loans. Then he went to Dundalk in February, put in some outstanding performances then in his 9th game called the ref an Irish c#nt. Picked up a 10 game ban, longest in league history, and had his contract terminated. The ban will carry over if he signs for us. https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024/0529/1452024-suspended-shelvey-leaves-dundalk-by-mutual-consent/ Edited July 20 by Tylluan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Nope @Tylluani think it was him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 There's no doubting he's a good keeper but he's fiery to say the least. A couple of training ground alterations brought an early end to a loan at Mansfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Shelvey played the 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Likes getting into altercations and calls people *****....what did you say his name was? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 9 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: Likes getting into altercations and calls people *****....what did you say his name was? 🤔 Fuck off 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 55 minutes ago, Reesh said: Fuck off MCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Just now, Andyben said: MCE Have you had a stroke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) Main Character Energy. https://www.verywellmind.com/main-character-energy-8550923 Edited July 20 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 hours ago, Alan Finney said: I know, I'm terrible aren't I but I do try, you have to give me that at least and I'm committed to improving even though I don't hold out much hope. Only a couple of weeks ago I posted on here that we'd agreed a fee for Ugbo which turned out to be a load of old cobblers didn't it? Oh, hold on, was that me or you? I've messed up again haven't I? Back to the drawing board I suppose.😂 You could just fuck off from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 20/07/2024 at 16:16, Andyben said: @Owlsonline's Toby Collyer and Ethan Wheatley start for Man U v Rangers which is on live now... One for the @Reeshand @KrolMong but Maxi Oyadele could be in if Collyer moved to first team squad. 🇵🇱 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Ugbo left out of the squad for Troyes pre-season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Ideally would move on Wilks elsewhere and possibly Famewo. Then bring in a Centre Mid and a Left Sided Centre Back to replace Famewo. Plus completing the Ugbo signing, or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 46 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Ideally would move on Wilks elsewhere and possibly Famewo. Then bring in a Centre Mid and a Left Sided Centre Back to replace Famewo. Plus completing the Ugbo signing, or similar. Personally I don't mind Famewo but if we can get an upgrade on him, I'll take it. I've seen Wilks has been linked with Port Vale but I'll be stunned if he drops down to Division 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Rumours flying around that both Poveda and Ugbo are close to being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 18 minutes ago, Reesh said: Rumours flying around that both Poveda and Ugbo are close to being done. tHaTs ThE miDfIeLd sOrTeD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 19 minutes ago, Reesh said: Rumours flying around that both Poveda and Ugbo are close to being done. If that happens, fucking hell. We have almost three weeks until the start of the season, have the club thought about the effect that’ll have on those “fans” who need something to moan about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Gamblor said: If that happens, fucking hell. We have almost three weeks until the start of the season, have the club thought about the effect that’ll have on those “fans” who need something to moan about? Many of them will be considering jumping off Tinsley Viaduct 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 16 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: Many of them will be considering jumping off Tinsley Viaduct I'll give em a hand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said: Personally I don't mind Famewo but if we can get an upgrade on him, I'll take it. I've seen Wilks has been linked with Port Vale but I'll be stunned if he drops down to Division 2. Like when Byers did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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