Tylluan Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Who's next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Thought he would step aside. Four in the frame apparently Howe, Potter, Potch and Tuchel. Throw Carsley into the list. Personally think Tuchel would get the most out of the squad. Edited July 16 by Hirstys 12th Pint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Always on cards after losing another final. I'm not sure about the next appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Well, that's the easy part done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Are they targeting Pep at the end of his City Contract with mention of an interim ? "The process for appointing Gareth’s successor is now under way and we aim to have our new manager confirmed as soon as possible. Our UEFA Nations League campaign starts in September, and we have an interim solution in place if it is needed." Mark Bullingham FA Chief Executive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 It's coming Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Good news, I don't think I could have sat through any more lumbering performances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Thank you Gareth. You may have frustrated us at times but at least you've shown dignity throughout and given us some highs as well as the lows when we'd become quite used to the permanent lows. Good luck for the future. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 I think it started to show he had not managed on the day to day club level for well over a decade Tactics move on, as do training techniques etc. The time you have with players is limited, often disrupted by injuries anyway and I would say far too many non challenging games in the qualifiers. I do get being an international manager is very different but you are not honing skills as much as you should 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 3 minutes ago, Alan Finney said: 1) Guardiola. 2) Tuchel. 3) Pochettino. But we'll finish up with Potter, Howe or Carsley who'll quickly turn into a Southgate clone. I’d also be happy with Klopp (begrudgingly) and have seen others suggest Bielsa, there’s no way the FA would - but he’d be great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Well really see how big the FAs balls are now by this next appointment. Maybe they should ask DC how much difference a Head Coach can make Edited July 16 by Tank_Owl2,0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Interim will be Carsley, and if he does well, which unless he absolutely fucks up with the players he has at his disposal, I reckon he’ll keep the job. Just seen that Karveh bloke who talks absolute shite while stating the obvious the rest of the time, on SSN, saying we’ve hit our limit as a group and no one else could get as much out of the squad. Southgate could have achieved more, no doubt, arguably should have too. But I can’t say he hasn’t reinvigorated the feeling around the team, when he took over it was an abject mess. Thanks Gareth, but I do think the time is right for change 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Newcastle CEO saying that he expects Eddie Howe to stay in the north east Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Its not just one person though, it is the quality of the team around him too. DR is a great example of that IMO. Whoever does come in I hope they inject some energy and pace into the style of play, without being reckless. Look how good we were when we went a goal behind and had to get out of the comfort zone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 41 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Just seen that Karveh bloke who talks absolute shite while stating the obvious the rest of the time, on SSN, saying we’ve hit our limit as a group and no one else could get as much out of the squad. I saw that. The guy is a moron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 53 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Newcastle CEO saying that he expects Eddie Howe to stay in the north east The FA can't afford the compensation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said: Interim will be Carsley, and if he does well, which unless he absolutely fucks up with the players he has at his disposal, I reckon he’ll keep the job. Have you seen England's next opponents? Ireland, Finland, Greece. Even Alan Irvine could get decent results with that squad against those opponents. I'm drawing the line at Xisco though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 12 minutes ago, Tylluan said: The FA can't afford the compensation And yet there's been so much talk of him getting the boot since the current owners came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 Just now, Owling_Wolf said: And yet there's been so much talk of him getting the boot since the current owners came in. But now they're sniffing an opportunity to offset FFP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Give Wiegman a go. That'll shake the tree a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 minute ago, Skamp said: Give Wiegman a go. That'll shake the tree a bit. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Just now, Andyben said: No Village mentality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Just now, Skamp said: Village mentality That. Or because there's such a massive difference between men's and women's football as to make them almost different games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 30 minutes ago, Andyben said: That. Or because there's such a massive difference between men's and women's football as to make them almost different games Except I've just watched them and am now stressed out to feck. "Only" needed a draw away at 'Land of the Giants' Sweden to qualify directly to Euros and got it but were bloody awful for the last hour and really put us through it. Lots in common with Gareth's men this Summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Tylluan said: Have you seen England's next opponents? Ireland, Finland, Greece. Even Alan Irvine could get decent results with that squad against those opponents. I'm drawing the line at Xisco though. Welll….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Skamp said: Give Wiegman a go. That'll shake the tree a bit. 2 hours ago, Andyben said: Because there's such a massive difference between men's and women's football as to make them almost different games As Ab has said and having coached across both spheres, they are entirely different games. So to have a head coach coming solely from the women's game into becoming a men's team head coach would be a Ted Lasso moment. But I would have advocated having Wiegman (and Hayes before she joined the US) coming in to do pre tournament training sessions. Wiegman has psychological success experience of winning tournaments with two different countries and Hayes has a tactical winning mentality that is through the roof. She's also a beast on the training ground in her demand for perfection. And if Wiegman hadn't had her own games to prepare for I'd have put her in the tournament coaching party as an advisor to Southgate, whether he liked it or not Edited July 16 by Tylluan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Hayes can fuck off the fucking dinner lady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 Someone's been to the NFL shop in Meadowhall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Of course they should ask Pep, he’ll say no, but he might give some good advice to where we should be looking. I doubt he’s that money motivated, but a one year deal with a £100m bonus for winning the World Cup might get his attention at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Owl Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 5 hours ago, Tylluan said: As Ab has said and having coached across both spheres, they are entirely different games. So to have a head coach coming solely from the women's game into becoming a men's team head coach would be a Ted Lasso moment. But I would have advocated having Wiegman (and Hayes before she joined the US) coming in to do pre tournament training sessions. Wiegman has psychological success experience of winning tournaments with two different countries and Hayes has a tactical winning mentality that is through the roof. She's also a beast on the training ground in her demand for perfection. And if Wiegman hadn't had her own games to prepare for I'd have put her in the tournament coaching party as an advisor to Southgate, whether he liked it or not Careful!!! She'll probably find this post insulting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 7 hours ago, Tylluan said: Someone's been to the NFL shop in Meadowhall Tbf he probably got that in Seattle, he is a proper fan of NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 9 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Except I've just watched them and am now stressed out to feck. "Only" needed a draw away at 'Land of the Giants' Sweden to qualify directly to Euros and got it but were bloody awful for the last hour and really put us through it. Lots in common with Gareth's men this Summer! Interesting you get so invested as I am sure half of us on here had zero inclination to watch it, had a brief moment of interest when they became Euro champions but as fleeting as will be case if GB win an Olympic rowing gold. I am not criticising by the way, I just think I peak out on Wednesday and England emotional investment wise that I have zero capacity for anything else sporting. The cricket team maybe but give me an hour I am OK, but 31 years later still not sure I am over the cup final replay defeat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 4 hours ago, mkowl said: Tbf he probably got that in Seattle, he is a proper fan of NFL He writes for/about Seattle Seahawks on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 The thing is, they really can take their time with this appointment. As previously mentioned, the next six games are Nations League division Two fixtures against teams who didn’t qualify for the Euros. The first two World Cup qualifiers are in March, with the next ones in June. The draw and fixture list will be decided in December. So if the March games are San Marino and Cyprus or whatever, literally the next important and difficult fixture won’t be until after the end of the next club season. Waiting for a bloke who’s contracted until the end of next season is a realistic possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 15 hours ago, Skamp said: Give Wiegman a go. That'll shake the tree a bit. Is that serious? If they’re going for an FA insider type with experience of coaching teams in tournament play, they will just go for Carsley. He won the UEFA under-21s last year. With Cole Palmer and Anthony Gordon in his starting line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 13 hours ago, JBO said: Hayes can fuck off the fucking dinner lady C'mon, JB, tell us the story behind your Dinner Lady angst. You can tell us, we won't tell anyone! 👀 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Owling_Wolf said: C'mon, JB, tell us the story behind your Dinner Lady angst. You can tell us, we won't tell anyone! 👀 😇 She always strikes me as very knowledgeable, but is cursed with the voice of a female Martin Keown so I find it hard to pay attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 9 minutes ago, Gamblor said: She always strikes me as very knowledgeable, but is cursed with the voice of a female Martin Keown so I find it hard to pay attention. She's also a real snidey **** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I reckon the FA will go with either Lampard or Gerrard. I've absolutely nothing factual to back that up with, but in the run up to the final a lot was made of the number of international matches Southgate had been involved in 'as both a manager and a player'. Shearer said it about 30 times and just got a weird feeling they might go in that ex-player direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Otto_Man said: I reckon the FA will go with either Lampard or Gerrard. I've absolutely nothing factual to back that up with, but in the run up to the final a lot was made of the number of international matches Southgate had been involved in 'as both a manager and a player'. Shearer said it about 30 times and just got a weird feeling they might go in that ex-player direction. Would Shearer himself be interested in taking the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Apparently the US folks have approached Southgate about managing their team. Guess it wont be as much pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 FA’s seven requirements for a successor. Southgate would not have passed requirement 2… https://www.instagram.com/p/C9nFv0No-TX/?igsh=MTR6M2NsenM1YTQzdQ== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 21 minutes ago, owl71 said: FA’s seven requirements for a successor. Southgate would not have passed requirement 2… https://www.instagram.com/p/C9nFv0No-TX/?igsh=MTR6M2NsenM1YTQzdQ== Does that put to bed any notion that Sarina Wiegman will be considered for the role? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 27 minutes ago, owl71 said: FA’s seven requirements for a successor. Southgate would not have passed requirement 2… https://www.instagram.com/p/C9nFv0No-TX/?igsh=MTR6M2NsenM1YTQzdQ== When they appoint somebody let's see how many of those boxes they tick. A lot will fall down on No4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Here's Doncaster Free Press' view https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/people/former-doncaster-rovers-boss-on-bookies-list-to-replace-gareth-southgate-as-england-manager-4705651?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2_fFXsW3ZJAnOTglMRuQ_m_B_MvezDJyaUfWMoGe4o1CTiQ0WC4P04vmE_aem__CI4Zfh-7kk-3aTIxe1ueA#Echobox=1721207748 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: When they appoint somebody let's see how many of those boxes they tick. A lot will fall down on No4. Out of interest Ty, and I haven't read the list, how many could you satisfy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Skamp said: Here's Doncaster Free Press' view https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/people/former-doncaster-rovers-boss-on-bookies-list-to-replace-gareth-southgate-as-england-manager-4705651?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2_fFXsW3ZJAnOTglMRuQ_m_B_MvezDJyaUfWMoGe4o1CTiQ0WC4P04vmE_aem__CI4Zfh-7kk-3aTIxe1ueA#Echobox=1721207748 Darren Moore at 50-1 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 18 minutes ago, owl71 said: Darren Moore at 50-1 🤣 Journalist contacts bookmaker, asks for price on Moore, places £20 bet then writes article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 11 hours ago, Gamblor said: Journalist contacts bookmaker, asks for price on Moore, places £20 bet then writes article. Surprised the author didn't make a reference to on going crime in S6 like he tends to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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